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British teenager convicted of making up gang rape claims in Cyprus speaks about ordeal in her first TV interview tonight

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stumbledin · 14/04/2020 16:47

Believe Me: The Cyprus Rape Case is broadcast on Tuesday 14 April at 10.45pm on ITV

www.itv.com/news/2020-04-14/british-teenager-convicted-of-making-up-gang-rape-claims-in-cyprus-speaks-about-ordeal-in-her-first-tv-interview/

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Groundedbyboris · 19/04/2020 12:02

@finnmcool Great!!! Do you know anywhere I could donate for her legal fees? If give her the shirt off my back.
@MrsDoylesTeaBags Yup definitely a hard watch but she wants us to hear it and yes Tonz I could totally see in my head what she and her friends were saying filled in a lot of blanks. Poor baby but yes she has Lions Courage

Tonz · 19/04/2020 11:55

@MrsDoylesTeabags It's not the easiest watch but she explains herself really well. She fills in a lot of gaps and you can actually see in your head the story unfolding. Not gonna lie i used a lot of hankies but I watched because she put herself through the interview to get her story out. Her story will haunt me for a very long Time. Her friends come across very supportive of her as well. God I just can't imagine that poor girl barely an adult. Her strength is impressive

MrsDoylesTeaBags · 19/04/2020 11:20

No I didn't watch it yet Tonz something I need to work myself up to I think. She must be increadibly brave, I'm glad she has a good support system round her and I really hope she does get the justice she deserves.

finnmcool · 19/04/2020 11:01

Groundedbyboris I got my shovel out for her legal fees.

Groundedbyboris · 19/04/2020 10:38

I know what you mean Tonz I can't get my head around it at all. Yes I saw at the end when she said even if it takes 50 years. She deserves justice and I'm so glad she's going to fight for it. I wish I could help

theotherfossilsister · 19/04/2020 10:05

@CantRememberHoliday You are brave too, you survived something awful.

TheQueef · 19/04/2020 09:57

The police initially just rounded up the guy she was seeing and his mates.
Not people she had identified just likely suspects by association.
Somehow because she couldn't identify some (because they weren't t here) this has become proof of her dishonesty.
Despite it being nothing to do with her statement.
Conveniently muddying waters.

Tonz · 19/04/2020 09:51

I have no idea @MrsDoylesTeabags it is truly horrific with just the gang rape then add on what happened after with forced to retract statement and being put in jail herself all after being diagnosed with PTSD. What the fuck! She really is an amazing young woman to still be fighting to clear her name. Did you watch the documentary? Right at the end she says even if it takes 50 years she will get justice. I really hope she does. Her support system with her family and friends is strong as well they'll see her through to the end and I suspect a lot of woman and men from around the world will be cheering her on

Ameanstreakamilewide · 19/04/2020 09:44

I found out yesterday that this woman is a cousin of one of my husband's friends.

I mentioned this thread, to him, so he could pass on how much support she has here.

MrsDoylesTeaBags · 19/04/2020 09:30

The more I hear about this case the sicker I feel. That poor poor girl. How did she get through it all?

Tonz · 19/04/2020 09:10

I don't know this girl will never know her but this case really gets to me it's so distressing. The panic and terror the girl must have felt when they burst in the room oh my god the boy she was seeing kneeling on her shoulders. She wouldn't have been able to process faces and details. It makes me so angry maybe because I have daughters

Muttonindistress · 19/04/2020 08:55

The guy in bed with his girlfriend is another one of the pieces of incontrovertible proofs of her guilt oft quoted in the comments section of the Daily Mail (I've really got to stop reading them). But to be clear, she didn't know exactly who was in the room or even how many of them there were. As her 'boyfriend' was kneeling on her arms to pin her down, I assume she couldn't see exactly was happening, and one would imagine she was not thinking about the need to gather evidence of the assault as it was happening. (I can't work out how to add emojis - but I think confused, sad and angry about covers it)

Tonz · 19/04/2020 07:14

She didn't wrongly accuse anyone she didn't know these men it was the one she was dating who named them

CurrantAffairs · 19/04/2020 03:45

Ffs, Datun not Fagan!

CurrantAffairs · 19/04/2020 03:45

Ah ok, I stand corrected, Fagan. I just remember reading that one of the defendants was able to prove his innocence as he'd posted a selfie in bed with his girlfriend.

Datun · 19/04/2020 01:17

I don't think that's right current. It was the man she was dating who named some of the rest - she didn't know them. And one of the men he named wasn't there apparently.

CurrentBun1981 · 18/04/2020 23:21

It defo seems an odd case. It probably hasn't helped that some of the men she accused were able to prove they weren't there at the time, but I do believe she was raped.

InvisibleWomenMustBeRead · 18/04/2020 22:00

Sadly I agree with you too @stumbledin

Tonz · 18/04/2020 21:48

@stumbledin Holy shit I had no idea it was this bad. That's a hard ugly truth

stumbledin · 18/04/2020 21:35

There's a good article here from Al Jazeera showing how treatment of women who have been raped in most European countries do not get justice.

It isn't about race, it is about patriarchal power and ingrained violence against women.

www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/cyprus-rape-case-tells-justice-europe-200119172255354.html

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Tonz · 18/04/2020 21:16

Don't think @Homestayer will be back. Maybe trawling through WhatsApp

InvisibleWomenMustBeRead · 18/04/2020 20:39

Sadly so true @Datun

Datun · 18/04/2020 18:56

It's no wonder a shocking amount women don't report rape.

Indeed. And it will continue as long as people like homestayer imagine that the porn soaked fantasies of young men have any connection to reality.

MrsDoylesTeaBags · 18/04/2020 18:53

Mutton I watched a Netflix documentary a little while back about girls who had been drug raped and their rape recorded and shared on social media. There was a police man on there who claimed lots of girls report rape "for the attention". This was in America, no wonder rape is so unreported when that is the attitude of law enforcement.

Groundedbyboris · 18/04/2020 18:43

It's no wonder a shocking amount women don't report rape. This girl though she's going to fight this all the way and good for her. She may well change the view of victims and help stop this happening again