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British teenager convicted of making up gang rape claims in Cyprus speaks about ordeal in her first TV interview tonight

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stumbledin · 14/04/2020 16:47

Believe Me: The Cyprus Rape Case is broadcast on Tuesday 14 April at 10.45pm on ITV

www.itv.com/news/2020-04-14/british-teenager-convicted-of-making-up-gang-rape-claims-in-cyprus-speaks-about-ordeal-in-her-first-tv-interview/

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Sickoffamilydrama · 17/05/2020 15:16

There's been lots on the boards previously as with anything on here sometimes things will get lots of comments sometimes not. Also the busier a thread gets the more likely it is to pop up into active threads which causes even more people to see and comment on it, especially if the only use the site on a mobile.

I wouldn't take it as a barometer of how most on the board feel/ think about that issue.

Datun · 17/05/2020 15:13

because of 'one little scandal in Rotherham'.

That person was vehemently disagreed with by everyone else.

Tachograph · 17/05/2020 15:04

Tachograph there's been lots of talk on the boards about Rotherham it's actually where I first learnt about it.
Remember talking about one thing that concerns you doesn't mean that another thing doesn't concern you as well.

I agree that caring about these separate issues need not be mutually exclusive. I guess I'm just surprised that there is no outrage against the perpetrators walking the streets freely and unimpeded from reoffending. I can guarantee a thread about seeing a 15yo boy using the ladies toilet would get 10x the amount of attention!

There was another Rotherham thread a few days ago basically expressing shock that we're 'really letting this happen'. It has predictably dropped into the ether and the remaining one now has posters complaining about the poor perpetrators and how we're infringing on their culture because of 'one little scandal in Rotherham'.

Sickoffamilydrama · 17/05/2020 14:48

Tachograph there's been lots of talk on the boards about Rotherham it's actually where I first learnt about it.
Remember talking about one thing that concerns you doesn't mean that another thing doesn't concern you as well.

Tachograph · 17/05/2020 14:24

The perpetrators in the above Rotheham case haven't even been properly charged and some of the victims are still seeing their abusers on the street. Dozens of girls plied with drugs and raped in our own country with no question of whether it was consensual and largely ignored on a feminist board.

Tachograph · 17/05/2020 14:20

As a relatively new poster on here I'm shocked how this has received so much attention whilst the Rotherham sex scandal continues to be shushed by the very same people who claim to speak out against VAWG.

I've just read the thread and despite only having 20 replies, posters are already complaining about people focusing on one little scandal in Rochdale. It's disgusting.

Italiangreyhound · 17/05/2020 02:28

I believe her.

Thanks
zoidforth · 15/05/2020 13:02

Is there anywhere I can watch this? It's not on hub or online

InvisibleWomenMustBeRead · 19/04/2020 21:02

I'd like to support her too @Tonz, so please PM me the details of how to also, thanks.

Tonz · 19/04/2020 20:19

@Terralee * Not upset me more like opened my eyes to how big this issue is and I thank all of u for that. I'm sorry u have trust issues with men it must be a difficult way of life for u.
@Datun* If only we could

Datun · 19/04/2020 19:51

Do we have to start telling our daughters to film every single interaction they have? Is this where it's heading?

Terralee · 19/04/2020 19:34

Sorry @Tonz if I've upset you, but to be honest I have trust issues around men anyway.
Obviously since hearing about this from my sisters friend I've become super careful but I've had some bad experiences myself around men that should've been trustworthy.

I'm single and find dating really hard as a result.

Tonz · 19/04/2020 19:26

I knew stuff like this went on but by fuck I didn't know the scale of it @Terralee. Everything I've learned about it in the last week has disgusted me. The world is not safe for my daughters

Terralee · 19/04/2020 19:19

Please be aware the same thing happens regularly in British holiday resorts, my sisters friend was a police officer in Bournemouth until he moved recently.
Nearly every weekend he was on duty there would be at least one young woman who reported being raped by several men, not usually locals, in a hotel.

The typical scenario is that the woman would meet an attractive man, get drunk with him & go back to his hotel room where the mates would be waiting.
The cases would Consistantly be thrown out by the CPS for all the usual reasons.
The police feel powerless especially because when they get to the hotels the men are usually very arrogant as they are fully aware that they will get away with it, & it's obvious from the victim's distress that her allegations are true.
So they make the men's arrests as unpleasant as possible because the officers find these cases so upsetting & get angry.
But the situation never even makes the local Echo.
Meanwhile (obviously not during lockdown) more hen & stag parties arrive & thousands of students flock to the town... totally unaware of the dangers.

The difference with the Cyprus case was the awful behaviour of the police towards the victim.
In this town the police are on the whole decent.
But the end result is the same. No prosecutions.

MrsDoylesTeaBags · 19/04/2020 17:13

Ereshkigalangcleg Yes thats the one. It made me cry, what a world we're living in. How can so many poor girls be abused and then failed so appallingly?

Melroses · 19/04/2020 16:24

Me too. I can't bear to watch.

Tonz · 19/04/2020 13:59

*@TheQueef * I know what you mean I'm thankful that nothing like that happened to me I was always abroad with friends when I was young. I'm glad I didn't know half of what I know now or I'd maybe have thought twice and missed out on a lot of experiences. I have 2 young girls and I'm terrified of them growing up

TheQueef · 19/04/2020 13:32

The older I get Tonz the more horrified I become at what passes for acceptable sexual behaviour.

I'm eternally glad I'm not a young woman growing up with violent abuse being normalised as it is now.

finnmcool · 19/04/2020 13:29

PMs sent.

Tonz · 19/04/2020 13:00

@TheQueef Jesus!!! Where has my head been?? This is very disturbing! How many poor girls and women has this actually happened to. I feel sick to my stomach. These girls are all someone's daughter. Something needs to be done

SillyCow6 · 19/04/2020 12:51

Could I have the details to help this poor girl too please. It is sickening.

Tonz · 19/04/2020 12:42

@finnmcool could you send me it as well I've money I was saving to take kids on holiday this year might as well use it for something useful. I would love to help her on her way

TheQueef · 19/04/2020 12:41

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p07ctvvn/a-high-school-rape-goes-viral-roll-red-roll

Another similar shocker here.

But porn doesn't cause this so it's ok.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/04/2020 12:28

I watched a Netflix documentary a little while back about girls who had been drug raped and their rape recorded and shared on social media. There was a police man on there who claimed lots of girls report rape "for the attention". This was in America, no wonder rape is so unreported when that is the attitude of law enforcement.

Is that "Audrie and Daisy"? That's a great documentary. Quite upsetting though.

finnmcool · 19/04/2020 12:23

@Groundedbyboris I sent you a PM with the information.
I feel the same as you. I donated twice, the second time was after watching the programme, I'm just so disgusted with everything that has been done to that young woman.