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Robert Webb in the Times

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JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown · 12/04/2020 09:33

Interesting interview with Robert Webb in the Times. I had no idea he'd been so ill.
He talks about the pile on he got for criticising Mermaids last year and whether he regrets it (no) and says that you can't acknowledge that there are competing rights without being framed as a bigot.
He also says it had real life professional consequences (which I see one of our monitors is already gloating about on twitter)
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d63efd46-7982-11ea-b535-542bda4e2a5f?shareToken

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Melroses · 14/04/2021 22:38

Yes it was very awkward. He was ambushed.

Diaryofamadwoman · 14/04/2021 22:37

That section of the interview was an awkward listen - very unprofessional of the interviewer.

Love Robert Webb.

ValancyRedfern · 14/04/2021 22:27

Sorry didn't realise this was an old thread. Always worth recommending How Not to be a Boy though.

ValancyRedfern · 14/04/2021 22:26

He's always been gender critical. He retweeted Lily Maynard excellent article about her daughter several years ago. He never recanted, just laid low until the Janice Turner retweet years later. His book is fantastic. He totally and utterly gets it.

Melroses · 14/04/2021 22:07

maximumfun.org/episodes/bullseye-with-jesse-thorn/david-mitchell-and-robert-webb/

More Robert Webb news - interviewer declares his kindergarten aged child transgender at 42 minutes.

SunsetBeetch · 14/04/2021 22:03

Wow I hadn't even realised.

Why?

Hmm
Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/04/2021 21:55

Holy Zombies, Batman!

SunsetBeetch · 14/04/2021 21:54

He's such a decent bloke.

Lisz · 14/04/2021 21:49

Yikes.

R0wantrees · 12/04/2020 20:51

When I heard him reading his autobiography on the Radio and he seemed a different person; intelligent, humble and insightful.

I thought the same when he was being interviewed this week on R4.
I hope he stays well.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 12/04/2020 20:28

The language is the rohypnol.

It's the same here when so many of us start each post by saying how they are pro-everyone having a nice dignified life; or they have many trans f+f etc.

By doing so you are accepting the premise of a false argument.

Just stop it. Stop giving in to the urge to prove your "decent human" credentials in a preamble, and get on with the point you are making. It weakens your main argument and makes you look like you are protesting too much.

(If someone comes along saying "oooh look they didn't say they are pro human rights, so they must be anti them!", who looks more batshit?)

MoleSmokes · 12/04/2020 19:57

I used to think he was a smug dickhead but if he had a drink problem that could well explain his behaviour back then. When I heard him reading his autobiography on the Radio and he seemed a different person; intelligent, humble and insightful.

Amazing stroke of luck with the diagnosis - may he live long and prosper Smile

R0wantrees · 12/04/2020 19:44

Journalists and others speaking out need to move beyond the defensive 'I'm not transphobic but...." line

Yes, speaking out in defence of Safeguarding children & women's sex based rights shouldnt need a caveat.

Michelleoftheresistance · 12/04/2020 19:36

Journalists and others speaking out need to move beyond the defensive 'I'm not transphobic but...." line. Instead they need to simply demand 'what do you mean by 'transphobic'?' Because once you unpick that (instead of mindlessly validating) it becomes clear to all that what is being discussed is not violence, discrimination and oppression, but heresy and disobedience to a niche extremist political lobby.

The language is the rohypnol.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 12/04/2020 19:11

Wow, what a scary time. I'm glad he seems to have come through it.

R0wantrees · 12/04/2020 13:30

TheProdigalKittensReturn has provided a link with sharetoken upthread.

Clymene · 12/04/2020 13:18

Please do not screenshot or C&P whole articles. You can read 2 articles a week free in the Times or use a share token.

Journalists need paying!

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 12/04/2020 13:14

Not as far as I'm aware. He was branded 'terfy' for a while before he openly criticised Mermaids although the reasons were always vague.

Then I am very pleased to be wrong, thank you!

MasterCat · 12/04/2020 12:51

Could you possibly screen shot or c&p the article OP?

I love Robert.

Danceswithwarthogs · 12/04/2020 12:20

What a good man. I just can’t forget him doing flash dance in a leotard for comic relief

CodenameVillanelle · 12/04/2020 12:16

I don't think he's ever been TWAW at least not since the gender insanity started.

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JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown · 12/04/2020 12:05

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he previously full-on "twaw"?
Not as far as I'm aware. He was branded 'terfy' for a while before he openly criticised Mermaids although the reasons were always vague.
He was very dismissive of the idea of male or female brains in 'How not to be a Boy' and recommended Cordelia Fine's Delusions of Gender, so I'm not sure how much he ever bought into it.

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BuzzShitbagBobbly · 12/04/2020 11:22

Slightly OT but ditto Matt Lucas and David Walliams/- the former is completely on board the trans train while the latter isn't? And I vaguely recall some kind of spat about it?

But they are working together again now?

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 12/04/2020 11:21

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he previously full-on "twaw"?

If so, how/what/where was his Peak?

AnyOldSpartabix · 12/04/2020 11:18

It just seems unlucky that you can’t acknowledge that there are going to be competing interests here and there without that becoming, ‘You are a bigot.’ ”

Great article, though this part frustrated me.

It’s not unlucky. The continuous message that anyone questioning any aspect of this is a transphobe and bigot is 100% deliberate strategy.