Do you find the term/meme 'Karen' an insult?

I'm also amused by the people who feel they need to explain how memes work to anyone who thinks Karen or boomer is sexist or ageist because obviously the problem is that an older woman who objects to sexism online just doesn't understand the internet

Why is it a generally a mother associated with anti-vax memes? More women blaming with a subtext that removes male parents from responsibility for child health decisions. Two for one.

Those memes aren't even amusing.

And most women named Karen (I'm of that generation) wouldn't be anti-vaxers - the majority of us got our kids jabbed!

The only whataboutthemen that is directly relevant to the discussion of the Karen meme is where is the men’s one.

Misogyny is memed and collectively accepted and spread in ways that homophobia, racism and ableism is not.

It’s ageist, misogynist and unimaginative. How dare these middle-aged women speak up for themselves and their families. I wonder why there is no male equivalent.

Posing for the camera. That’s what people do when their photograph is taken. It doesn’t mean they consented to be memed.

Apologies, I took:

have had their photo taken without their knowledge or consent while minding their own business in public

to mean people being unwittingly or unwillingly photographed in public.

Yes I think it’s offensive. I also dislike the use of the term ‘boomer’ in a negative way.

Gronky - are you old enough to remember viz magazine?

I was a teenager when it was first popular (in the sense that I saw it on the news stands) but I didn't read it because I thought it was some sort of adult Beano.

Yes it’s a stereotype - where are the male equivalents? Mullet memes? And why should a hairstyle that is common in older women possibly due to practical length, or thinning hair and going grey be gleefully mocked? What’s the nearest equivalent - a combover which is used by men to disguise balding?

And fgs. Posing for the camera. That’s what people do when their photograph is taken. It doesn’t mean they consented to be memed.

Here you go - it’s a meme ubiquitous enough that it needs no explanation

I hate it. Although I always felt it was more snobbery of the working/upper working class, rather than middle class but either way it's classiest, which ever its demeaning.

Gronky the meme you’ve linked to is different - he isn’t seeing his face or name being used as an insult.

PeytonManning interesting. So you’re saying that you never see any men acting unreasonably or entitled/rude/arrogant? Any young people kicking off at small issues? It’s literally only middle aged women who do this as a class and deserve their own meme?

Misogynistic and ageist

It may well indeed be misogynistic and deeply unfair on every real life Karen, but here in the US there is a breed of entitled, rude, predominantly middle aged women who fit the Karen meme down to the ground. I know several.

It’s always the same people who are yelling at the refs in their kids’ games, bitching on the FB Moms pages every time someone looks at them the wrong way, making their kids’ coaches lives Hell because Little Johnny didn’t get enough playing time at soccer today and generally taking out their miserable existence on everyone else. Yes, it’s a stereotype but in this case, a pretty accurate one.

Which means they have had their photo taken without their knowledge or consent while minding their own business in public, and strewn across the internet for lolz.

It could be my cookies, I understand Google shapes its images based upon your search history but the ones I'm seeing are heavily edited or, where a real person is featured, they seem to be posing for the camera.

How do you think those women feel?

Presumably, similar to this man:
www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/feb/23/meet-the-man-behind-the-white-guy-blinking-meme-drew-scanlon
(I couldn't find an interview with a woman who'd become the face of a meme in conventional media).

This is hardly a new phenomenon or one limited to women (Biagio da Cesena).

Gronky - are you old enough to remember viz magazine? It is quite possibly why to a specific age group in the UK the names Sharon and Tracy would never be used as they became shorthand for traits that were ridiculed and derided. Then there is Harry Enfield’s Tim nice but dim.

Karen memes are global reach.

Can anyone find a meme where it’s a man asking to speak to the manager?

Googling male Karen - oooft enlightening.

My god, that meme list is awful. Nothing but sexism and stereotypes. It reminds me of a modern version of those pictures of suffragettes drawn to show them as all ugly scolds. M

Definitely ageist and sexist. Its pretty much just an excuse to use lazy stereotypes to dehumanize older women under the guise of virtue signalling.
I saw one recently can't remember the detail but it was blaming 'Karens' for stockpiling, and someone pointed out under the post, that it's the 'Karens' who are generally responsible for shopping, cooking and caring for their own families but also often elderly relatives?
You know that the people complaining about Karens buying toilet paper are pretty much the same people who expect it to magically reappear in the loo whenever needed, and are sitting on their arses complaining about Karens on twitter while their Mum takes that extra shopping over to the elderly neighbour who needs it.
It's just an excuse to put older women in their place. It's almost always gleefully spiteful too.

Thank you, OverMy, perhaps I don't 'get' memes. Those seemed to me to be either directly relating to customer service demands or associating a particular hairstyle, except for the one with the man in a suit, which I can't understand at all.

Gronky look at the women in those images - how many are posed or stock images? Barely any. Which means they have had their photo taken without their knowledge or consent while minding their own business in public, and strewn across the internet for lolz.

How do you think those women feel?

It’s tiresome and not funny.

Karen, Wendy etc...just really lazy and yes, misogynistic.

Especially jarring when used by Twitter woke dudes.

I can assure you they are there. And the talk to the manager memes are being used for other subjects.

images.app.goo.gl/X9o9vhvfXxsRuzGC8

www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/23-hilarious-karen-memes-to-share-with-all-the-karens-you-know/86013719/

If you put Karen meme in google images you can see it goes way beyond customer service.

Thank you, that's quite an interesting way to explore memes. However, I'm only seeing 'talk to the manager' themes.

No one is denying that people exist who are over demanding of customer service. But how is it that it is considered enlightening on a date to see how a man behaves to the wait staff and yet there is no male meme for it?