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Woah, the accepting of male and female chromosomes on the BBC!

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justanotherneighinparadise · 11/04/2020 11:09

Blow me down with a feather. I’m listening to the BBC’s global podcast covering Coronavirus and they are covering a scientific report that discusses why males are more susceptible to the virus than women and that’s because the female has two chromosomes from each parent and the male, just the one.

So in a global pandemic we’re allowed to talk about biological sex and the fact that we are indeed different? No pronoun jibber jabber, just hardcore facts.

Nearly fell off my chair.

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DryHeave · 12/04/2020 13:29

Anyone know which episode?

DrDreReturns · 11/04/2020 16:49

Yes I do realise that @HennyPenny4 (except erythrocytes) the way it way phrased confused me, that's all.

HeffalumpsCantDance · 11/04/2020 16:45

Oh Bloody Hell, does this mean Manflu is real?

HennyPenny4 · 11/04/2020 16:34

You do realise it is each cell in your body that has 2 X chromosomes, not just 2 per body, this is why I cannot get my head round people saying we can change sex - just impossible.

PositiveVibez · 11/04/2020 14:43

I'm guessing TW are feeling happy that they've lowered their risk with a wig, some lipstick and telling anyone who'll listen about sitting down to wee

😂

DrDreReturns · 11/04/2020 14:37

Ok so that statement specifically refers to the X chromosome? The gene(s) that confer protection against Coranivirus are sex linked, like haemophilia?

Helmetbymidnight · 11/04/2020 14:34

this virus is transhobic because it doesnt accept transwomen are women.

MrsGface · 11/04/2020 14:33

Women inherit one of their mother’s X chromosomes and their father’s only X chromosome, making us XX.
Males inherit one of their mother’s X chromosomes and their father’s only Y chromosomes, making them XY.
The X chromosome is the one that impacts the immune system, and if you have two, they can act in tandem. This is a good intro to the subject <a class="break-all" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/opinion/coronavirus-men-women.html#click=t.co/tb1tRakWZM" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/opinion/coronavirus-men-women.html#click=t.co/tb1tRakWZM

DrDreReturns · 11/04/2020 14:12

I'm sorry perhaps I'm being dense but could you explain this:

the female has two chromosomes from each parent and the male, just the one

I think females and males both have 23 chromosomes from each parent. Sorry that sentence confused me!

DryHeave · 11/04/2020 14:05

OP: what was the date of the podcast? Their summaries are pretty useless and I’d like to find it.

Freespeecher · 11/04/2020 13:01

HennyPenny4

Thanks - I suppose the main point isn't that as much as science doesn't care for feelings or views on multiple genders etc so it's important not to mess up the data by including some biological males under the 'female' category.

(On the subject of data it seems that each country is carrying out different numbers of Covid-19 tests and recording the results in their own way, making comparisons tough, perhaps even meaningless).

terryleather · 11/04/2020 12:53

Material reality bites luxury beliefs in the ass.

I'd love to think this new state of affairs will be permanent but I'm not holding my breath, the genderists won't give up without a fight...

HennyPenny4 · 11/04/2020 12:53

Start the week on Monday on Radio 4 discussed this
www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000h2c0

Women have better immunity to all viruses from what I gather!

Freespeecher · 11/04/2020 12:48

Coronavirus is the first time I've heard about women being better at fighting viruses than men because of their XX chromosomes (don't know if this was generally known before the current outbreak).

Does it follow that men are disproportionately affected by all viruses or does it depend on the virus in question?

MrsDoylesTeaBags · 11/04/2020 12:45

I thought the comments below the Janice Turner article were very odd. Male and female physiology are different we all know that and so medical and surgical approaches need to be different. Its not a battle of the apexes but if different responses are being noted we need to understand why.

Completely unrelated but kind of, I was watching something on Netflix called 100 humans and they have a group of 100 people split them up by sex or age for example to see which group performed better in certain scenarios and if some stereotypes hold true. When they did the male/ female one someone in the group said "what about other genders" so they said okay people who identify as male here and people who identify as female here, and the response was "Yay trans acceptance". DH and I just looked at each other like 🤨

justanotherneighinparadise · 11/04/2020 12:35

*I0NA

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SarahTancredi · 11/04/2020 12:35

Funny how they want to legally lie and pressure everyone to cave then still blame everyone else for health care being shocking.

Well the truth is necessary for any medical care. Even if that truth hurts someone.like you cheated or you lied about where you were .what you ate or drank or took. Truth is vital. You cant hide from reality no matter how hard you want to.

CodenameVillanelle · 11/04/2020 12:25

The app developed to track self reported data on covid 19 started off asking for people's sex then changed it to assigned at birth after pressure from trans activists.

StealthPolarBear · 11/04/2020 12:20

Yep I'd spotted this too. I'm guessing TW are feeling happy that they've lowered their risk with a wig, some lipstick and telling anyone who'll listen about sitting down to wee.
Clearly the virus must agree that TWAW, right?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 11/04/2020 12:14

Not just the BBC either. I noted Nicola Sturgeon talking about death rates by sex rather than gender the other day...

twoHopes · 11/04/2020 11:57

Its funny how when Male lives are at stake we collect sex aggregated data.

Quite. I'm sure if there were more women dying of this we would see a lot of people shrugging their shoulders and saying "huh... I guess women are just weaker than men". But when it looks like men are more likely to die we must get to the bottom of it.

SarahTancredi · 11/04/2020 11:45

Oh yes wonder

Their response to my complaint regarding not using the word woman when talking about the detrimental effects of period poverty fell on deaf ears... cant think why

wonderstuff · 11/04/2020 11:43

Its funny how when Male lives are at stake we collect sex aggregated data.

I0NA · 11/04/2020 11:38
Grin
SarahTancredi · 11/04/2020 11:36

Oh yes cos we are all at home too busy lying about our ages