Covid-19 and purity spirals

More finger wagging.

The suggestion that shopping baskets are policed is horrifying. But I suppose we can refuse. They cant jail us all..... That would be one big covid nightmare. Would be a good way of dealing with the dissenters right enough...

3/10, needs more threats about martial law being imposed.

We have been given plenty of opportunities to police our own behaviour. The fact that some people seem to think that this is the right time to make a strike for.individual freedoms is the reason why stricter rules will be introduced, not because the police are power mad or because your next door neighbour secretly fancies living in North Korea.

Many of us want to have a life back - to see our children or parents, to go back to work, to continue with our hospital treatment that has been suspended. Why does your desire to sit on a park bench or sunbathe trump someone else's need to start chemotherapy or have a life changing operation?

You might be open mouthed in shock at how some.people like to stick to rules? Me, I'm open mouthed at just how selfish some people are.

It seems like each force is making up its own rules as it goes along. Is there no centralised authority that could offer them some guidance after actually reading the law?

And the police have handled this really badly. Threatening to search shopping baskets ffs.

Totally agree. I always wondered how the stasi etc operated. Now I see how willing people are to put others in the wrong. My children have basically been told off every time they’ve stepped outside without me - each time they were either cycling up and down an empty street for exercise, playing football in an empty park for exercise or cycling through a park for exercise.

It’s scary. It also explains why people love the trans agenda. It’s a way to put women in the wrong with zero effort.

I saw someone suggest that the army be sent in to deal with people buying non essential items last week. Perhaps martial law/police states sound more appealing to those who've never lived under one.

It really is Kittens
I'm horrified by the social scolding going on and the willingness to allow police the right unlimited powers by posters on here.

This is all showing some fascinating patterns in terms of people with a need to control others. Lots and lots of them work for the police, but not all.

The people in the park last weekend weren't just sitting on a bench for a five minute breather were they? Again, if these activities are "no risk" why are those who are shielded not even allowed outside of their house? That must mean that there is a possibility of us catching it just by going for a walk, so there must be a greater chance of catching it by touching an object, like a bench.

Covid 19 is far less infectious than chickenpox. It is mainly spread by droplet spread by prolonged close contact. The most neurotic person does not "win" the argument here. Parties and meeting up with people outside your household are banned. Sitting on a bench for 5 minutes part way through your walk isn't

Is sunbathing, having a picnic, sitting in the park permitted? No it isn't. We can go out to exercise or shop, not sunbathe or have s sit on the park bench.

Why are people so determined to make a stand or find a loophole? Doing that is increasing the risk each time either by coming into closer contact or by creating fomites. There is no chance that those individuals all maintained social distancing at all times in that park. MN has so many threads with people complaining about cyclists or joggers passing too close, dogs off leads coming up to them, young children getting too close. Each of those interactions is an opportunity to.pass the virus on. It's irresponsible and if they tighten the lockdown it will be the fault of everyone who thought it was ok to bend the rules.

But they were in the vicinity of each other. Public gatherings aren't allowed.

It. Wasn’t. A. Public. Gathering.

It. Was. Individual. People. Exercising. Individually. In. A. Bloody . Great. Big. Space.

Not the football crowd you seem determined to imagine.

I agree OP, I have thought about purity spirals when looking at the local coronavirus support group on FB.

They weren't in the vicinity of each other. They were in a massive park keeping their distance.

But 400 people, or even 3000, weren’t all sitting on a bench ?

But they were in the vicinity of each other. Public gatherings aren't allowed.

I absolutely am expressing anger for those in power, and for those who voted them into power.

Do you have data to show that the people are working class? Regardless, I doubt the virus eases off because the person is working class. Why does class matter?

But 400 people, or even 3000, weren’t all sitting on a bench ?

Or

Low risk - one person sitting on a bench

High risk - 1000 other people thinking " if they can do it, so can I" and then everyone thinking it's ok to relax the boundaries.

Either there's a rule in place or there isn't.

Gosh, are you suggesting that if I come down with severe coronavirus I should die alone rather than bothering the NHS? How sweet of you.Gosh, are you suggesting that if I come down with severe coronavirus I should die alone rather than bothering the NHS? How sweet of you.

If you go and do something that you've been specifically told not to do then I don't think you have right to expect healthcare workers to risk their lives in order to treat you.

And yes, going out of the house is low risk, not no risk as this poster said

If you are sitting on your own in a park far from anyone else, you are not going to catch or transmit the virus

A bench could well be a fomite

400 people in a HUGE park, exercising - yes, of course , it is ok for them to be there. It is allowed, or do you not understand that ? I have just come back from a brisk walk in a huge park myself, with my DH. Quite a few people there but big distances between them - everyone behaving very well. Exercise is good for the immune system and good for general health .