Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Covid-19 and purity spirals

684 replies

DreadPirateLuna · 09/04/2020 13:54

Covid-19 is a very serious illness which threatens our most vulnerable and risks overwhelming the NHS. We should all do what we can to flatten the curve and save lives. People whose behaviour risks lives (e.g. urban residents traveling out to holiday homes in rural communities) should face criticism and sanctions.

However, I can't help feeling that some of the outrage at some behaviours is less about reducing the spread and more about getting caught in a "purity spiral".

Take all the outrage about people in parks. Fresh air and sunshine is good for physical and mental health, it improves the immune system which is particularly important during an epidemic! Many urban residents have no other source of open space except the local park. The ability to get outside can be lifesaving for victims of DV. Risks of contracting disease are very low if you keep your distance from others outside your household.

Yet I've seen photos of walkers and family groups in parks, keeping far away from others, but accused of selfishness and killing the elderly and disrespecting the NHS. Parks in London have been closed, meaning more congestion of other areas and residents confined to homes, which is damaging for reasons outlined above.

And it's usually (though not exclusively) women and esp mothers who get blamed. Those selfish Karens and their broods.

A more sensible solution would be to allow restricted access to the parks. Maybe allow only locals in nearby flats without gardens. But it seems we're not doing sensible these days.

OP posts:
Dances · 10/04/2020 19:07

Dodging 'The List' question again. What items makes one 'utterly selfish '?

Is it one which can be added to as time goes on? So, perhaps anything at M&S, because some people can't go.?

I bought crisps which I am currently eating. I bet this is in selfish bastard territory. I probably wont have any dinner though, so does it count as dinner? Or does it have to be nutritionally balanced to meet your scrutiny?

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 10/04/2020 19:06

And as you are such a fan of Hancock

I'm not a fan of Hancock's, where did you get that from? Can't stand any tories

Dances · 10/04/2020 19:02

And as you are such a fan of Hancock, why don't you bang off an email asking why his government failed to deliver on their key roles, which is to protect the public?

Or why are you so focused on scolding people for buying a bottle of plonk, instead of directing your considerable ire on paid politicians who are responsible for medical staff treating patients with inadequate PPE and without COVID testing?

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 10/04/2020 19:01

Course you didn't, Hooves.

Nope, I didn't. AS me and read the thread yourself. You'll see that I've been on it since the start.

Dances · 10/04/2020 18:55

Course you didn't, Hooves.

Have you done that Prohibition List yet? Aside from wine and candles, what else makes one 'utterly selfish'

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 10/04/2020 18:48

No one on this thread has told us we're going to hell yet so I think the "Selfish" thread is winning the "totally doolally" race, but ours is funnier.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 10/04/2020 18:46

Dances

I'm not advanced searching anyone. Just happened to be on the thread where a poster is complaining about her nephew socialising with friends. The irony was not lost on me, that's all.

Dances · 10/04/2020 18:31

Yes Hooves is off doing advanced searches on everyone to prove their 'hypocrisy".

So, informers and purity searches. Which organisation did that, historically?

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 10/04/2020 18:26

Saw that thread and thought what a perfect fit it would be, Dances. Great minds etc.

Mrsfrumble · 10/04/2020 18:26

Oh god, definitely not trying to start on of those AGAIN TheProdigalKittensReturn. I feel like I’ve had that discussion 17349864 times on here over the last 3 weeks, with people insisting that one of those tartan granny trollies has the same capacity as a car boot. Or that if you can’t carry enough food for a family of 4 for 14 days in a large rucksack you’re a feeble weakling Hmm

Binterested · 10/04/2020 18:25

Hearhoovesthinktediouschildishbaiting.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 10/04/2020 18:23

Or, you've been called out for double standards and don't like it?

Dances · 10/04/2020 18:23

Hooves
There is a Selfish Bastards thread in the go right now where you will do splendidly.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 10/04/2020 18:18

1/10, poor understanding of how to goad effectively.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 10/04/2020 18:16

Hhmm or maybe you could just not be a hypocrite?

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 10/04/2020 18:14

1/10, poor effort even by your standards. Must try harder.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 10/04/2020 18:12

So you're against purity spirals prodigal but on another post just now you're complaining about your nephew socialising with friends??

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 10/04/2020 18:09

Oh god, can we not do the "not everyone has a car and a chest freezer" conversation again? The amount of people I've seen insisting that everyone can buy 12 pints of milk and 15 loaves of bread at once, plus however many tins etc, and take them all home and store them no problem, and if you say you can't obviously you're just lazy and bad at organizing things.

Dances · 10/04/2020 18:08

Bloody phone... apols for typos. I am of course gallivanting all over the country at the moment (not cleaning the lavvy)

Mrsfrumble · 10/04/2020 18:07

Ha! I honestly don’t know how long I spent. Longer than usual, because I was making careful decisions about what I could carry home, what would last as long as possible, and I kept having to change what I’d planned to buy because things weren’t in stock. I usually just wang stuff in a basket and get out as quickly as possible because I know I can go back again anytime, but it’s all different now isn’t it?
Everyone is having weigh stuff up now. Some people’s circumstances will allow them to follow “the rules” to the letter. Other’s will not.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 10/04/2020 18:05

And then make the offending person do a shame walk with people chanting like on Game of Thrones.

(No head shaving unfortunately because that would involve physical contact.)

Dances · 10/04/2020 18:04

kittens
Grin

And we could all turn and point.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 10/04/2020 17:56

NON ESSENTIAL WINE GUMS DETECTED IN THE BAGGING AREA. I REPEAT...

Dances · 10/04/2020 17:54

I reckon there should be a klaxon for time spent in the supermarket. You would be ejected with fuck all if you go over the Approved Time. For advice on what the Apprived Time is, please refer go the curtain twitchers.

Also a big voice booming 'Contraband Goods. Publics Shaming Imminent!', when someone tries to lift a bottle of plonk, or a tea scone. Make them sit in the town square and have people lob the scones and wine at them.

That'll learn 'em

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 10/04/2020 17:46

But did you spend a whole hour inside the supermarket, Mrsfrumble? Did you?

(Not sure how anyone could tbh but hey ho)

Swipe left for the next trending thread