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Why is the BBC Promoting Sex Work?

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WootMoggie · 09/04/2020 12:18

I know the BBC tries oh-so-hard to be "progressive" but this is really taking the piss:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/5e7dad06-c48d-4509-b3e4-6a7a2783ce30

The BBC state at the top of the article that selling explicit content online can be a lucrative business, and the opening quote of the article is "My biggest fear is going back into an office and being normal again"

Other choice quotes include "I like the freedom it gives me and the celebration of the female form" and also '"I used to make £20,000 a year, and now I make a lot more than that every single month" Lauren says coyly'

"Lauren says coyly"?? WTAF?

I see no problem in writing articles about this subject, but the tone and position of this article is dubious in the extreme IMO.

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FloralBunting · 09/04/2020 20:56

I am a young woman and I feel that this thread is the opposite of what I thought feminism was about.

If I wanted to create an Onlyfans account I thought other feminists would be like, 'Hell yeah. Make money. Do what you want with your body. You can do whatever you want!'

Stick around. Much new stuff to learn, then.

wheetos · 09/04/2020 20:51

I am a young woman and I feel that this thread is the opposite of what I thought feminism was about.

If I wanted to create an Onlyfans account I thought other feminists would be like, 'Hell yeah. Make money. Do what you want with your body. You can do whatever you want!'

It's not a conventional career because so many people have their own personal feeling about sex and can't help but put themselves into other peoples shoes.Of course there are very dark elements to sex work but, I can also say that about my job in commercials. There is so little tolerance for women who decide to do something like sex work.

wheetos · 09/04/2020 20:37

Excuse my ignorance but is feminism not all about choosing what you want to do in life and being unapologetic about your body and what you want to do with it?

A grown woman should have the choice surely to decide how she makes money? Take advantage of those sad enough to pay for onlyfans or any sex site! I don't see how this is exploitation when she wants to do it?

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 09/04/2020 20:33

Because the BBC has gone beyond woke to laughable. I long ago used to be the first person to defend the licence fee. Not any more...

Aesopfable · 09/04/2020 20:24

Outside the echo chambers of Mumsnet feminism, I don’t think many people dispute that selling sex, as a free choice, is work

I think you will find a very small proportion of people would agree that 'sex work' is the same as other work. Hardly any would be happy for there daughters to be encouraged into this 'career' or their sisters or mothers. And if any school offered an assembly promoting prostitution as a career then there would be a definite outcry. What rubbish to suggest people think it us just 'work'!!!!

GammonWithAHardR · 09/04/2020 19:16

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zanahoria · 09/04/2020 17:46

The BBC asking the question on everyone's lips

What does a drag queen do during lockdown?

www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/a9833a93-fe83-4cca-a8e1-06701d3fdf53

RadicalFern · 09/04/2020 16:40

When 80% of female accountants, bankers, personal assistants, nannies, therapists, retail staff, and other workers report being raped by their clients, and 50% by their bosses, then I'll start agreeing that sex work is work like any other work. Until then, that claim can go do one.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 09/04/2020 16:28

It baffles me that some people cannot see the huge negative effects of the commoditisation of sex and that is before we even get to exploitation.

DuchessDumbarton · 09/04/2020 16:06

Let me see if I can articulate exactly why this is not ok.

There is an ongoing faux-naif claim that sex work is "just work" .

Which either does not consider, or, deliberately ignores, that sex--work is never a "free choice".
The function of sex is intimately tied up with our own sense of self-value, our own attachment styles and figures.

I am not a prude who thinks that sex is innately shameful and that sexual desire or enjoyment should be shut away.
But, the fact is, that sex is a powerful behaviour, primarily focused on species reproduction.
And, as a powerful behaviour, it needs self-regulation to modify appropriate boundaries around where and when it is used.

In the same way that human aggression has a species survival function, but is regulated and boundaried for all our safety.

I won't watch cage fighting. And I wont watch porn.
For the same reasons.
Someone is being exploited for my titillation or sadistic impulses.

WootMoggie · 09/04/2020 16:00

I don’t think many people dispute that selling sex, as a free choice, is work.

I think most people would dispute it.

The moment you accept that, you must accept the withdrawal of unemployment benefits for those who refuse to do it.

You also need to be living in complete denial of how difficult it is for those within it to change track to something else once they decide not to do it anymore.

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DuchessDumbarton · 09/04/2020 15:59

Shocked to see this type of content on the supposedly august BBC.

Lets see...photos of the workers feature only young white, fresh faced women. Tick.
Photographers are male. Tick
Sex work is a legitimate choice. Tick
Trying to push the boundary below 18. Tick.
Target market....probably male?

BovaryX · 09/04/2020 15:50

I wonder why there is significant overlap between the TWAW mantra and 'sex work is work?' These vacuous slogans are chanted by the same 'activists.' As for the BBC? It is at basement level.

TheMarzipanDildo · 09/04/2020 15:40

People who think sex work is ‘just work’ have shit critical analysis skills I reckon. It’s a highly risky job that the BBC of all organisations should not be promoting. But then I don’t think any type of work that can easily descend into the demeaning, dangerous or overtly exploitative is ‘just work’.

Binterested · 09/04/2020 15:36

I don’t know anyone who thinks that sex work is the same as work. Only pimps and the porn addled peddle this line.

There’s a reason the govt is not suggesting everyone at risk of financial hardship become an online sex worker to make ends meet. Because it is not the same as work.

If it’s not good enough for my daughter, it shouldn’t be good enough for anyone’s daughter.

HorseRadishFemish · 09/04/2020 15:34

Lord Reith must be spinning in his grave. PimpTV...

DidoLamenting · 09/04/2020 15:29

Balhammom

Outside the echo chambers of Mumsnet feminism, I don’t think many people dispute that selling sex, as a free choice, is work

You have absolutely no way of knowing whether that is true. My own political views are generally near the right of centre, towards moderate and moderated capitalism. I dislike a lot of feminist theory as I think it can be infantilising and disempowering. I don't think prostitution is work like any other.

I could be a much nearer the centre version of Ben Shapiro - who incidentally also does not consider prostitution and sex "work" is valid work. I mention him to give an indication of the range of persons who share this view.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 09/04/2020 15:26

Oh, come on Dido, of course sex work/the sex trade is necessary to the structure of worldwide society. Without it how can we be sure to get our sexual kicks?!

DidoLamenting · 09/04/2020 15:21

Whenever the bbc feature any employment does it need to show opposing views? Whenever they feature an article about (eg) banks should they feature those who hate bankers?

Working in banking, even if only aged 16 is not illegal. The banking system is necessary to the structure of worldwide society. There is no need to give opposing views unless the point of the article is from an anarchist/Marxist slant.

The whole argument is very bizarre. I see no reason why the bbc shouldn’t report on these, entirely acceptable, views

The legitimacy of the so- called "sex trade" is by no means "entirely acceptable"

You might not like them or agree but the bbc isn’t there to appease everyone. That’s really just not how society works

The article sails dangerously close to promoting an illegal activity with the suggestions of big money to be made.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 09/04/2020 15:02

Just like any other?

PaleBlueMoonlight · 09/04/2020 15:01

URL fail

www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52183773

Balhammom · 09/04/2020 15:00

Outside the echo chambers of Mumsnet feminism, I don’t think many people dispute that selling sex, as a free choice, is work.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 09/04/2020 14:58

No-one disputes that working in/for a bank is just work.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 09/04/2020 14:57

It was this one, under technology.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52183773ttps:www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52183773

Balhammon I assume therefore that you are of the view that sex work is just work, like any other? Many people do not hold that view. The BBC publishing article after article like this means that they are normalising (or seeking to normalise) the idea that sex work is just work. Many of us object to that normalisation and are concerned about the BBC's complicity. Besides, there is tonnes of criticism about the work of banks and bankers.

OneEpisode · 09/04/2020 14:51

The article did read as an advertorial for taking up this work under 18. That is illegal. Banking is not illegal.

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