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Ezra Miller

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FloralBunting · 06/04/2020 19:52

This is going to be a challenging post to write, because MN Guidelines will mean the reality of Ezra Miller's actions won't be as pin sharp as they could be, but...

Ezra Miller attacked a female fan, captured on camera, by grabbing her throat and throwing her to the ground. Ezra would like us all to refer to Ezra by they/them pronouns, but I think it's really important to be aware that Ezra is not a neutral, sexless being, Ezra is of the male sex class.

Lots of Ezra's fans are disappointed in Ezra, but think THE most important thing right now is to respect Ezra's which to obscure the sex class Ezra belongs to. I think that's bollocks.

Oh, and Grant Gustin is always going to be the best Flash.

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Roseglen84 · 26/06/2022 11:24

EsmaCannonball · 18/06/2022 23:01

So much commentary on Twitter arguing that bigots are ascribing Miller's behaviour to his non-binary identity. No, what is happening is people are noticing the frequency with which abusive and predatory men use the sheep's clothing of a trans identity to get away with their crimes.

Yes, exactly - and how often narcissists use 'non binary' as another 'look at me I'm so super special' label.

WolverineBluey · 26/06/2022 09:36

Quite, I read about it in the Graun yesterday and not to minimise Miller's actions here by focussing on this, but the reporting repeatedly bungled the pronouns, which speaks volumes.

There's a horrible sentence somewhere in it referring to both the woman and child together, and Miller singular, as 'they'. It's near impossible to interpret.

In the final few pars Miller was back to being a plain old 'he'. There must have been complaints as it's been amended now.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/jun/24/ezra-miller-accused-of-housing-children-on-a-farm-with-guns-and-marijuana?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other

TheLassWiADelicateAir · 26/06/2022 02:42

Bit more...

GlomOfNit · 25/06/2022 18:21

I'd never heard of Ezra Miller until I saw the name trending alongside Emma Watson's today (allegedly they are friends/colleagues and she's not distancing herself from Miller or something - I don't know or care, really). Looked him/them/it/zem up (apparently all pronouns Miller is happy to use), thought 'ah right, Credence in the Fantastic Beasts films' and then had a look at the Wikipedia entry for Miller.

Jaw hit the floor. I mean - how the hell is a person like that even getting acting jobs any more?!

Red freaking flags ALL over the place. The thing currently in the news, the vulnerable young mother with three very young children, holed up in a house littered with guns and cannabis (and apparently Miller actually runs a cannabis farm from there) is just crack. WTF?

picklemewalnuts · 19/06/2022 07:30

There's an unfortunate culture of 'mentoring' adolescents whose parents 'don't understand them', grown from offering acceptance to gay kids rejected by their parents.
It confuses all the usual safeguarding measures.

TheCurrywurstPrion · 19/06/2022 06:25

“No, what is happening is people are noticing the frequency with which abusive and predatory men use the sheep's clothing of a trans identity to get away with their crimes.”

I agree that’s probably occurring in some cases, but I don’t get the impression that’s what’s happening here. I suspect this is a situation where substance abuse, mental illness and possibly a personality disorder are all intertwining to create instability in a person, who is almost untouchable, not because he claims a trans identity, but because he’s famous and of a sex-class which is often allowed a great deal of leeway to offend, before suitable action is taken.

I can’t state what I want to as clearly as I could wish, but I suspect the trans identity is not being adopted in order to escape justice here, rather that the feeling of “being trans” is closely linked with certain other traits which probably affect this individual.

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind1 · 19/06/2022 00:38

Ezra Miller is a they/them, yet behaves exactly likes a man, funny that.

JellySaurus · 19/06/2022 00:27

by reinforcing the message that violence is associated with masculinity we perpetuate the cycle that leads to male on female violence.

Oh look, thanks 1st, 4th and 10th rule of misogyny in one post!

BTW violence is not associated with masculinity, it is associated with being male.

Masculine=gender, male= sex.

EsmaCannonball · 18/06/2022 23:01

So much commentary on Twitter arguing that bigots are ascribing Miller's behaviour to his non-binary identity. No, what is happening is people are noticing the frequency with which abusive and predatory men use the sheep's clothing of a trans identity to get away with their crimes.

EarthSight · 18/06/2022 22:33

Cohle · 07/04/2020 10:12

Becuse I think it's odd, on the feminist board, to make sweeping, stereotyped generalisations based on "sex class".

@Cohle They don't have to make generalisations. They just have to look at the cold hard crime statistics.

MenopausalMe · 18/06/2022 21:59

Harassing another child ew.com/celebrity/ezra-miller-allegedly-harassed-minor-gun/

ColinRobinsonsFart · 18/06/2022 21:10

www.nme.com/news/12-year-old-child-granted-order-of-protectiion-against-ezra-miller-3249428

ezra is at it again…

VestofAbsurdity · 13/05/2022 21:55

SpringBadger · 13/05/2022 21:17

Wtf, so he want to make a woman search him?

Of course he does it's a free pass to further enact his women hatred.

SpringBadger · 13/05/2022 21:17

Wtf, so he want to make a woman search him?

Yolojo · 13/05/2022 21:12

No Ezra, you are the very epitome of rich, white, male privileged entitlement and giving yourself a trans label does not convince anyone that you're a poor ickle victim rather than an aggressive brat.

Yolojo · 13/05/2022 21:08

What an absolute douchebag. Never has it been made clearer that those of Ezra's ilk - ie. Narcissistic self-important airheaded fuck-ups - see 'trans non-binary' as a literal get-out-of-jail-free card.

ScreamingMeMe · 13/05/2022 20:54

Footage of Ezra Miller being arrested. At around 2.42, he says "I am transgender and non-binary. I do not want to be searched by a man."

IamAporcupine · 21/04/2022 16:45

TheMarzipanDildo · 20/04/2022 19:23

Just realised how old this is! That poster was so just so infuriating

Oops, did not realise either!

IamAporcupine · 21/04/2022 16:39

Cohle · 07/04/2020 10:27

I'm well aware of the statistics relating to violence against women. I just think it's disappointing how many FWR posters are perfectly comfortable with gender stereotypes when it suits their views on trans or non-binary individuals.

Not sure I understand this correctly - are you saying that male violence (against women) is a gender stereotype?!

TheMarzipanDildo · 20/04/2022 19:23

Just realised how old this is! That poster was so just so infuriating

TheMarzipanDildo · 20/04/2022 18:36

Cohle · 07/04/2020 11:16

Is Cohle referring to the fact that we have a problem with a male who presents totally as a male but calls himself a woman being accepted as a woman?

No, because Ezra doesn't "call himself a woman".

Miller uses they/them pronounss^, which GQ Britainn^ stated is done "in a pointed refusal to be gendered". Miller stated that, for them, queer means "I don't identify as a man. I don't identify as a woman. I barely identify as a human."

If you're going to criticise how someone chooses to identify, it would seem sensible to at least know what that identity is...

My concern about gender stereotyping is that by reinforcing the message that violence is associated with masculinity we perpetuate the cycle that leads to male on female violence. I think we should be challenging masculine norms, not embracing them.

How are we embracing them? Are you trying to say that you can only stop crime by pretending it isn’t happening? What utter bollocks.

We are not fucking perpetuating violence by pointing out who overwhelmingly commits it. That’s some victim blaming shit right there.

SportyGirlsMum · 20/04/2022 18:17

Quite a history with law enforcement in Hawaii:

www.kitv.com/search/?l=25&sd=desc&s=start_time&f=html&t=article%2Cvideo%2Cyoutube%2Ccollection&q=Ezra+miller

FireFlyBoogaloo · 20/04/2022 12:32

OhamIreally · 20/04/2022 11:44

@DidoLamenting

He's a nasty piece of work with a huge ego. The only tiny thing in his favour is the pronoun nonsense seems to be at his fans' instigation, not his.

I'm mildly curious as to why he is in Reykjavik but hopefully that will make a prosecution easy as hopefully he can't leave.

Oh that makes more sense. When a previous person referred to him being "spotted in Iceland" I was surprised that he would shop there.

Hah!

FireFlyBoogaloo · 20/04/2022 12:31

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 20/04/2022 08:45

Miller also made headlines in January when they posted a now-deleted video on Instagram threatening members of the Ku Klux Klan operating in Beulaville, North Carolina.

Miller was seen telling members of the Klan to kill themselves with their own guns, otherwise 'we'll do it for you if that's what you want.'

I thought that was interesting. holds up my belief that these angry SJW types are just angry people looking for a cause to legitimise their behaviour

Yup. Being "woke" online is the current socially-sanctioned way to be a bully.

But I think part of it is also the ability of small groups with fringe opinions to find "community" with each other online. Thirty years ago the weird teenager would have been a bit weird for a few years in a physical community where they were fairly unique for their weirdness and would eventually (mostly) take the social cues and sort themselves out and grow out of it. Now they can find a community of other weird people online, convince each other they're all marginalised, 100% right about everything, and know things nobody else knows at the age of 17.

I'm glad people have more scope to be whatever they want and live as they want, really, but the "teething problems" of this new technology are more like festering gingivitis that needs to be sorted out before the West becomes even more of a gummy, toothless mess.

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