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Always & women symbol

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NiteFlights · 04/04/2020 11:29

Did I miss this? Always have taken the women/Venus symbol off their packaging so they don’t upset trans and non-binary people?

My Dsis mentioned it to me yesterday. I can’t believe I didn’t know. How can a sanitary towel manufacturer cave in to this nonsense?

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caramac04 · 04/04/2020 17:00

Thanks Dido,
That’s made it clearer for me although I still feel we are overly bending to a minority and dismissing the majority.

SarahTancredi · 04/04/2020 15:40

Ironically despite claiming that women want them..Hmm..there were an awful lot of scented products still on the shelves and very few of anything else

Michelleoftheresistance · 04/04/2020 15:29

And yes, the overt sexism was quite telling, wasn't it? Females can be ignored in their thousands over a problem with the actual product, but a female preferring to identify as a man feeling slightly offended - oh immediate jumping to obey.

Michelleoftheresistance · 04/04/2020 15:28

Gave me the push to abandon bought products and go to eco friendly re usable ones. I hadn't realised how harsh the chemicals were and what impact they had until I made the switch, the re usable are much better! (And don't stink).

Woman - Adult human female with a vote, and the family spending power.

SarahTancredi · 04/04/2020 15:06

They took it off ages ago.

Unfortunately this us where we are. Thousands upon thousands of women contact always to tell them their scented products not only stink they cause allergic reactions and pain to the women who usually have bought them by accident as the labelling isn't clear . And they do nothing.

A trans man complains and bingo they react.

All they care about is woke points and I haven't nor will not buy they products ever again

DidoLamenting · 04/04/2020 14:21

But I thought they wanted to be identified as women so why the angst about a symbol representing women?

The complaint was made by a trans man, not a trans woman.

caramac04 · 04/04/2020 14:07

But I thought they wanted to be identified as women so why the angst about a symbol representing women?

R0wantrees · 04/04/2020 14:01

Did I miss this? Always have taken the women/Venus symbol off their packaging so they don’t upset trans and non-binary people?

My Dsis mentioned it to me yesterday.

CNN 23/10/2020
(extract)
"Always sanitary products will remove the Venus symbol, historically used to represent the female sex, from its products to be inclusive of transgender and nonbinary customers.

Transgender activists and allies had publicly urged Procter & Gamble to redesign its pad wrapper without the gender symbol, a circle atop a cross. Among their arguments were that not all people who menstruate are women and that not all women menstruate.

The change is the latest in a series of actions companies and governments are taking to affirm the identities of transgender people as transgender equality activism surges. Companies including Lyft, Mastercard, and Tinder are making similar moves.
"For over 35 years Always has championed girls and women, and we will continue to do so," Procter & Gamble said Tuesday in a statement. "We're also committed to diversity & inclusion and are on a continual journey to understand the needs of all of our consumers."

Getting periods can be a dysphoric experience for transgender and nonbinary people, especially because of the way that periods are generally discussed and addressed as something that only happens to people who are assigned women at birth.
Procter & Gamble has not said when the design change will happen." (continues)

edition.cnn.com/2019/10/22/health/always-period-gender-symbol-removed-transgender-nonbinary-trnd/index.html

R0wantrees · 04/04/2020 13:57

October 2019 Mail on Sunday
"18-year-old trans activist Ben Saunders - named young campaigner of the year by LGBT charity Stonewall in May after making a documentary about being transgender – contacted the sanitary pad makers in June complaining about the sign"

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7593861/Feminists-slam-sanitary-towel-maker-ditched-Venus-logo-products.html

bellinisurge · 04/04/2020 13:50

I make reusables for dd since she started a year ago. She doesn't have exposure to any of this silly nonsense.

DidoLamenting · 04/04/2020 12:49

It's been gone for a while. Always extra long protect liners are by far and away the best for mucus discharge caused by Crohn's Disease. I've tried loads of others but none came close.

They are not marketed for this purpose and this might be too much information but if anyone, or your male partners, suffers from Crohn's I definitely recommend them.

dementedpixie · 04/04/2020 11:53

It's been gone for a while

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