Men pushing in in queues and not social distancing.

Did anyone start a bingo card yet? I've got "you've put me off feminism but not being nice enough, you have".

You are allowed out daily for exercise so that's where all the runners are meeting

I'm amazed at just how many of you are going out so frequently as to be able to make these observations - you know, seeing as we're in a lockdown and all that.

I said calling people fucking stupid. And you've taken my other thread out of context. To say I'm truly deeply saddened is an understatement. I've learnt today that unless you agree 100% with someone on Feminism Chat you will be spoken to like you're 'fucking stupid'. I really hope you're pleased with yourself @HorseRadishFemish because you've just lost someone who was trying to learn and understand the cause.

Yeah, I’ve noticed it too. Yesterday we were on our walk and a bloke was coming up fast behind us. We were entering a narrow gate so stepped aside to let him pass before it became too narrow, by which time he would be right behind us. Cue muttering and swearing. ‘I’ve not got it ffs. Stupid dykes, I’m not going to infect you blah blah blah.’ A man came right up behind 12 yo DS in the shop queue and coughed on him too.

Joggers and cyclists are also a particular pain, always of the male variety. The more polite ones shout ‘excuse me’ as they charge up to us expecting us to get out of the way. The less polite just push through our space.

In the supermarket it’s both both men and women who space invade. A woman virtually climbed over me to get at the carrots.

For me it's the male joggers and their right to own the pavement. A faster version of Patriarchy Chicken.

Suggestions for a new name? Patriarchy Frogger should be reserved for trying to cross the road in places where men in their vroom vroom cars won't stop.

Is AIBU quiet today or something? Some people who love to bunfight who we haven't seen in a while!

ErrolTheDragon

To be fair it's normally the wife that wants to tag along for a couple's trip out

nah. No way is that the norm

Neither of you have any concrete evidence of which statement is true.

You don't think calling people stupid is helpful?

Yet on the only other thread you are on you said:

...I'm surrounded by selfish, foolish idiots...

Perhaps you're not stupid or an idiot.

Just a bit daft?

That is going to prove interesting in couples where the wife has to check in all the time and the husband does that strategic incompetence thing.

I worry for alot of women in this lockdown tbh

To be fair it's normally the wife that wants to tag along for a couple's trip out

Not in most of the couples I know it's not!

Ffs this isfeminism.chat. this isnt so much about individual examples it's how men as a class treat/oppress women

This thread is about Helena's personal, individual experience, which of course has been accepted as entirely valid and applicable to men as a class, whereas another poster's personal but different experience was called out as being a lie.

Sainsbury’s joins Aldi and Tesco in ‘banning’ couples as supermarkets enforce social distancing rules.

Why does more than one person need to do the shopping? Supermarkets are now stopping more than one person going into the shop and the other person/family members will have to wait outside.

To be fair it's normally the wife that wants to tag along for a couple's trip out

nah. No way is that the norm.

@SwerfandTurf I thought I did understand it, but obviously not! I've been reading the Feminism Chat on Mumsnet for awhile now, particularly the posts regarding self-ID, and have a lot of respect and admiration for the regular posters. I was someone who have never really considered the issue, but I can now say I'm truly GC! I just feel like calling people (whoever they may be) fucking stupid, is not particularly helpful.

comic

From a historical point of view do you think its possible, that years of ownership, rape, forced marriages , denial of rights to buy property or even to participate in normal life, being beaten for being inappropriately dressed , being denied medical treatment because no man is present to consent, being denied education or aborted just for being female, do you truly believe that age hundreds of years of that and some of it still going strong in parts of the world, that its mot remotely possible that many many members of the male sex class have left over feelings of entitlement from all those years of merely being superior for owning a penis..

If you haven't experienced it then you are.lucky. long may or continue

But we have a long way to go still and it's not helpful to pretend this uneven society doesnt exist

You obviously don't get it at all comicshadows, but thanks for your reply.

Comic, do you know what the “NAMALT” trope/movement is? Do you understand the history of it, and how it is used?

I suggest you google and research, then perhaps you’ll be less confused about the difference between disliking the NAMALT movement and hating all men.

Just adding my experiences, tbh it is men I've seen doing this

Another friend said it too - she then put her observation on Facebook, that was a big mistake she got absolutely pasted for it by all the enraged men 😳🤦‍♀️

And if makes me really sad when a woman feels the need to speak to another woman in such a condescending way.

To be fair it's normally the wife that wants to tag along for a couple's trip out

Are we counting the wives who get nothing but phone calls if they do dare to go shopping alone that it's easier just to bring the partner, here.

I'm trying to understand why some women think this is an exclusively male issue. Personally I believe it's generally people being ignorant, selfish and oblivious to others, nothing to do with sex.

I have read it, twice. I can't work out who you've got such a problem with.

No doctor has ever come on here to explain why testicles need a entire seats worth of space to air , or why waiting their turn causes such physical and mental distress that they have no choice but to shove you in the queue.

But go ahead tell me why thats perfectly normal behaviour...

Neither. Go back and read. I can't do that for you.