Men pushing in in queues and not social distancing.

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Of course I'm angry. I'm a 73 year old Feminist on a page for Feminism and women's rights reading claptrap from misogynists

Of course, you are entitled to be angry, and to nurture that anger as much as you wish But making sweeping generalisations about 'men' is not what feminism is about...certainly not for everyone...and you don't hold the final, autocratic decree of what feminism is, and who gets to be one.

I am really only here because of the TRA agenda.......because to me that is the single biggest existential threat to women, to the reality of the female existence, as a distinct category of person. I find it deeply offensive to suggest that a man can simply identify into being a woman, and I can clearly for see the quite profound issues with it.

I don't look at or read any other boards on Mumsnet and have no interest in them. But let me tell you that the whole generalised man-hating, women are innocent and virtuous and without personal agency or responsibility schtick is not for me...and it is exactly what puts many people off from labelling or identifying themselves as a 'feminist' - even if they actually do believe that women are full human beings( though of the female variety)- and as such should have the due respect and opportunities to express themselves that men traditionally have - as well as to have respect for their more 'feminine' roles.

Your attitude is exactly what gives feminism and self declared feminists a bad name...and as soon as i saw this thread - I thought" People are feeling bored and frustrated with the lock-down...and using it to vent their own self righteousness.....and i was right. I should have stayed away.

It has become an unpleasant and toxic thread for a few people to virtue signal, and to tell other women that they don't make the grade - because they refuse to be consumed by anger and hatred - at men in general.

Indeed, that because they have an alternative view to you they must be 'misogynists'. That to my mind is no better than TRA allies screaming "transphobe" or "bigot" at anyone who disagrees wit their pack mentality.

Go back to your sourdough and chill out.

It is more about the social structures and cultures in which we all live, and/or were brought up in. Men included.

Yes!

Now if only we had a name for that system of entrenched cultural beliefs which trap us all.

I tell you what, and I’m just floating it out there as an idea, let’s say we call it the patriarchy.

Helena that is really interesting. I have almost no capacity for learning poems quotes or plays by heart. I can't begin to understand how actors do it - but clearly they can.

It must be wonderful to be able to do this. I'm envious.

I have no problem with remembering technical facts and details but remembering things verbatim? No chance.

I started some sourdough so I could bake bread without yeast in case I couldn't get any. Easy peasy. Equal parts by weight of flour and water, leave out at room temp so the wild yeasts can make themselves to home. Feed it every 12 to 24 hours with flour and water (no chlorinated water) Takes a couple weeks to attain enough vigor to make good bread. They say rye flour makes the most vigorous starter but I cannot confirm. There are people who sell dehydrated starter on eBay.

Lots of people have gone mad with the toilet paper, but this is the first I've heard of bulk buying garbage bags.

I didn't know deactivated yeast was even a thing. What would you do with it? If he was able to get any active yeast then that's good, it's been in short supply where I am.

(I've also been feeling the urge to make bread, which my DH did not know I could do, so now he's in awe but there's no yeast, so.)

He's been fretting for over a month that if anyone breathes on me I will expire, so WTF is he doing buys a box of forty kazillion tall kitchen garbage bags? And what's the story with the albacore which I do not eat? The oddest was the deactivated yeast seasoning though.
I am hungry now so I am going to go outside and plant some potatoes.

Also keep us posted on what you make, I love your baking posts.

What were the WTF items?

I just tried spelt flour for the first time today in popovers/yorkshires. It has a lovely flavor. I look forward to trying it in other applications.
Eldest went shopping for me last week and so as to cover all the bases he bought inactive dry yeast as well as active and several kinds of flour, one of which was spelt, as well as a number of things that prompted a WTF.

"Clearly you feel very angry - hence the 'WTF'"

Of course I'm angry. I'm a 73 year old Feminist on a page for Feminism and women's rights reading claptrap from misogynists. But that's not why I'm angry. It is, however, the reason I roll my eyes when I write WTF in response to people who are inordinately proud of their ignorance.

Everyone was moaning that I made casseroles 5 days in a row two weeks ago, and now I'm isolating and they can't pop down maccies anyway, they're all like "Muuuum, how do we make those big pot dinner things?"

Yes, isnt it odd?

I had egg, chips & beans for supper.

I've been feeling the urge to make British comfort foods, seems to be a reaction to coronavirus related anxiety. Like building a cocoon made of carbohydrates and dairy.

I do keep a tub of Bisto onion gravy (its vegetarian, can be pimped ) & used to do a good veggie sausage toad in the hole.
Herbs in the batter is a good addition (IMO obviously)

See, I miss gravy. Sometimes find myself craving a proper roast dinner, but I'd have to cook it myself and I'm too lazy plus not confident that my yorkshire puddings would come out right.

Ah well pouring beef or chicken gravy over any of my food would make me boak. (Its been many decades since I did that)

Maybe parmesan Yorkshire Puddings are for other combinations?

They'd just be like big floofy round posh cheese straws, wouldn't they?

If they were to be eaten alone I wouldn't be so put off, it's the idea of pouring beef or chicken gravy over parmesan that's giving me the boak.

I have to say though, don't fancy the idea of parmesan yorkshire puddings.

I wasnt sure either when I saw the suggestion
I like cheese in crepes though. Could it work?

(Also chuckling at such preposterous characterisation of Rufus)

Expressions of anger from me tend to involve a bit more non acronym'd swearing.

Still chuckling at the idea of Rufus the super aggressive meany. I have to say though, don't fancy the idea of parmesan yorkshire puddings. Is this like the thing where they're putting inexplicable ingredients in hot cross buns?

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I don't think I can say WTF (or type it) without a smile (snort possibly?) of incredulity.
I shall try to remember to check in with my emotions when this happens in the future. Im fairly confident its not an expression of anger though.
(Just speaking for myself of course)

Oh fgs Helena 2 occasions and 6 men or 6 occasions- so what - in either case 6 men were involved.

The figure 6 stuck in my mind. That if anything actually bolsters your argument - 6 separate occasions of poor behaviour.
It's rather egotistical to assume on a 15 page thread that your posts should be indelibly imprinted on my mind.