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Men pushing in in queues and not social distancing.

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HeIenaDove · 03/04/2020 20:32

I know in the scheme of things this is only small but its the bloody entitlement that gets to me.

When the new Coronavirus Bill came in last Thursday two men used the 2 m gap to try to push in front while i was queuing outside Tesco.

Re, social distancing , i try i really try to stay 2m from people at all times on the rare occasions but the amount of men who walk right next to me or towards me KNOWING that i will move.

This afternoon was the final straw Queuing outside Sainsburys observing the 2 m rule i had to wait until the queue moved to where the trolleys were . There was no way i could get to them BEFORE queuing and observe the 2m rule so i had to wait in the queue before i got to them. I leant across to put my pound in the slot and the FOUR men queuing behind me jumped the queue by moving along in front.

Im so fed up with the entitlement Every time its been a man EVERY TIME. Ive not seen this from women at all .

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TinselAngel · 07/04/2020 17:36

So unlike a man to tell women that they’re experiencing sexism wrong, because HE doesn’t agree with women’s experiences. 🤷‍♀️

Which rule would we say this is? It could be several.

Guyonhere1 · 07/04/2020 17:31

Well in my experience, it has been both genders, but women more than men

HorseRadishFemish · 07/04/2020 17:30

I've copied that list. It's very good.

Something that Dido and Hooves can't have a problem with.

We can all get behind that.

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 07/04/2020 17:28

I do have a life rather than reading 18 pages of a thread

Yet you have taken time out from you’re apparently busy life to come on here to berate females, without reading the actual thread. So unlike a man to tell women that they’re experiencing sexism wrong, because HE doesn’t agree with women’s experiences. 🤷‍♀️

Guyonhere1 · 07/04/2020 17:24

But why have men been singled out? Surely you’d be angry if it was the other way round and women were had been singled out instead

HorseRadishFemish · 07/04/2020 17:23

Surely it’s both genders...

That's literal violence; there are many, many genders. A boy in Scotland was sent home in just his underpants for questioning that obvious fact.

rwalker · 07/04/2020 17:23

sorry I've found old ladies to be there worst carrying on as more or less normal

R0wantrees · 07/04/2020 17:22

TinselAngel Thank you, I hadn't seen rules 15-17.

FloralBunting · 07/04/2020 17:21

Cooing is very ladylike though.

TinselAngel · 07/04/2020 17:20

Copying clearly, not cooing!

TinselAngel · 07/04/2020 17:19

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Guyonhere1 · 07/04/2020 17:16

I do have a life rather than reading 18 pages of a thread

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 07/04/2020 17:12

so how can you justify that’s its only men and not women? Try reading the thread. I’m not your mother, it’s not my job to do it for you.

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 07/04/2020 17:11

....we’re

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 07/04/2020 17:10

It seems some people really dont want to allow discussion & awareness of those 'Rules of Misogyny'

I’d be more shocked if we didn’t have feminists being attacked and the implications or downright accusations that were picking on the poor men and 🥱 NAMALT. .

Guyonhere1 · 07/04/2020 17:08

@T0tallyFuckedUpFamily so how can you justify that’s its only men and not women?

R0wantrees · 07/04/2020 17:07

We’ve seen strong, intelligent feminists having a group of people constantly criticise them before, but I’m sure that no one would try to goad them into an angry response, in order to get them banned. Absolutely never ever happens on here, sure it doesn’t?

Bewilderness is often targetted.

It seems some people really dont want to allow discussion & awareness of those 'Rules of Misogyny'

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www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3236421-so-these-ere-rules-of-misogyny

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 07/04/2020 17:06

Oh look, a man has appeared to tell the women that they’re wrong, even though he has read none of the thread. That’s so unusual.

Guyonhere1 · 07/04/2020 17:05

Cba to read all 18 pages, but how can OP pinpoint men. Surely it’s both genders. Shocking that.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 07/04/2020 17:04

Well, I thought we were extrapolating our one experience and applying it to a whole sex?

R0wantrees · 07/04/2020 17:02

Cantankerous people being oblivious to other people's needs or boundaries Hearhooves?

Its never surprising.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 07/04/2020 16:55

My mum and dad have just phoned. They are late 70s/early 80s, both significant health problems.

Elderly neighbour just knocked to ask for help as her phone has gone wrong. Mum trying to talk to her on the doorstep but neighbour, a bit cantankerous anyway, yelled at mum that she couldn't hear her and barged into mum and dad's house.

God, women just barging into vulnerable people's homes and not obeying social distancing.

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 07/04/2020 15:42

We’ve seen strong, intelligent feminists having a group of people constantly criticise them before, but I’m sure that no one would try to goad them into an angry response, in order to get them banned. Absolutely never ever happens on here, sure it doesn’t?

R0wantrees · 07/04/2020 15:03

Slightly in the horrors about Bewilderness being lectured about feminism on here TBH.

Yes I found that shocking too Tinsel
Interesting also.

Goosefoot · 07/04/2020 14:05

I can't say that I really much care whether or not specific individuals who get huffy in the face of class analysis "identify" as feminists or not. This is not unrelated to the fact that I think "identify as" as a concept is bollocks in general.

But no one is huffy about class analysis.

Class analysis actually has to be based on material reality. That's basic, it's fundamental. Without a good sense of the material reality there can be no class analysis, and it's not always easy to determine that.

Trying to figure out what is true or not at that level is an essential component of class analysis, not a repudiation of it.

If people don't understand that they don't understand class analysis.

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