Rich celebrities produce lockdown video denouncing 'transphobia'

Has Jeremy Vine not studied history? E.g Georgian men in England - wigs, makeup, heeled shoes, lace and pretty colours etc.

The era when the term handsome was used for women!

This is NOT new.

Bowie looked like a woman and this blew seven year old Jeremy Vine's mind.

He didn't, though, he looked like a man in makeup and flamboyant clothes. Which was frankly a lot more interesting and potentially revolutionary than insisting that anyone in makeup and flamboyant clothes is a woman. If someone is unable to wrap their head around the idea that men can look like that then that's unfortunate for them, but no reason that they should be allowed to condemn the rest of the world to a similarly dull life.

Well, it's nice that celebs are keeping busy. Not sure why anyone is meant to give a shit what they think about serious issues though.

That was always the case but really, in the middle of a pandemic, unless their point is that they've discovered that being trans makes you somehow more vulnerable to coronavirus then it just doesn't matter and most people aren't going to care. Go back to posting selfies by your pools, celebs, or donate money to help those in need. Nobody is interested in your deep inner thoughts at the present.

What a load of guff. I don't care if those slebs (term used very loosely) have a friend who gets the sads if they're told no. The world doesn't revolve around their wants and whims. Women matter.

Are those people famous? Most of them I've never heard of.

Anyone remember Brass Eye 'Cake'?

My first thought too

Over all, I think this video's cast is great news - no one but the usual suspects. A couple of years ago, there would have been lots more celebs eager to tart themselves out display their woke credentials on this. Now, even though not many are speaking up for GC women, there are a lot fewer voices mindlessly amplifying TRAs.

Well ok, but do they say what constitutes transphobia? I bear trans people no ill will, I think the whole 'trans rights are human rights' is a misnomer since there are no human rights they do not have in this country. I haven't hurt any trans people physically (or anyone else for that matter, I'm not violent). What I have done is support the right of lesbians, bisexual people and gay men to re-organise themselves and focus on their 'community', support women's rights and believe in biology. Now, I don't regret any of that and I'll carry on. So what EXACTLY are a bunch of celebrities telling me to do? Must I renounce my beliefs and support for people I think need it? I think they need to clarify what this transphobia is, I want them to REALLY spell it out so I am certain.

If the beliefs I hold and my support for women and gay people is wrong I want them to tell me exactly why that is. This vague, nebulous idea of transphobia they speak of without clarification isn't going to cut it I'm afraid. Not after seeing what is now classed as transphobia on social media (usually having an opposing opinion).

His hubby is quite a bit younger so maybe he is just trying to keep ‘Dahn wiv da yoof’?

"Fortunately I already regarded most of those people with the utmost contempt. It's almost satisfying to learn that Stephen Fry isn't nearly as clever as he thinks he is."

Or he just wants to score points with the young, woke crowd?

Tbh, I've always thought J Vine the lesser brother. At least Tim's lame jokes can be quite amusing amongst the excruciating mugging for the audience. Jeremy does that without the puns.

they can't work or earn money at the moment but what they can do is score woke points by insinuating that trans folk don't have the same rights that the rest of us do and waving their rainbow flags to show how right on they are....

It's transphobic of Fry to say or imply they were ever anything other than women. Why is he not getting called out for that?

That was to previous post

Hmm.

Tbf Jeremy Vine can dress up however he likes but...
Supporting the legal fantasy of changing sex is not what the majority of people want.
The majority of people are not transphobes.

These 'celebs' seem to grossly misunderstand this simple truth.

We object to medicating healthy people and healthy children and being led into irreversible medical pathways.

Jeremy Vine, just leaving this here

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Vine is everywhere, at the moment. I can't believe he is stupid enough to align himself with someone who co signed Tatchell's children sex lesson demands. Perhaps he didn't do his due diligence. Or maybe he did...

"the wachowsk's are certainly women now"

I wonder how Fry feels about having made that statement. Does he think he is being nice and kind?

Jeremy Vine is Tim Nice But Dim.

Stephen Fry is just a smart Alec and cannot actually think

Frankie Boyle is quite unpleasant.

Dawn Butler is officially thick and we all know it.

Matt Lucas - misogynist as all of Little Britain demonstrates.

The others - who?

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Sorry MN HQ

Datun
Tatchell and Fry swimming in the same lane as usual.
All these 'celebs' could be swimming in this lane.

What do you think Jeremy Vine?

@biologyisreal - good point, that means he wouldn't go there with a trans man who still has a vag then? That makes him a transphope does it not? Or does that only apply to lesbians who refuse the 'female penis'?

The fact that Fry aligned himself with Peter Tatchell and his demands for sex lessons for five year olds, is enough to destroy his credibility forever, as far as I'm concerned.

Fry is a massive misogynist. Some years ago on a chat show he was asked about his gayness and he made the following "joke". "After I was born I thought no way i'm going up there again".

What an arsehole - now that's something I could joke about in relation to Fry but I would probably be deleted.