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Elton and Sam Smith

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SuckingFickOfIt · 30/03/2020 07:24

meaww.com/elton-john-sam-smith-misgender-pronoun-he-hell-breaks-loose-twitter-backlash-iheart-living-room

Interesting that Elton did this. Would you guess it’s a slip up, or Elton being straightforward.

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BovaryX · 30/03/2020 08:23

It's about compelling people to do something they struggle to do and getting a kick about exerting that control. It goes by a number of different terms

Well said nauticant it really is about control. Forcing people to use language not to describe external reality, but to undermine it is an Orwellian stunt....

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 30/03/2020 08:21

That bit Photos posted was hilarious. Turns out that if someone looks like a human male people refer to that person using "he/his/him" automatically even if they're trying not to, because most of us learned our native languages as babies and how we use them is rather deeply embedded. I suspect that in languages that have masculine/feminine verb forms people are doing exactly the same thing.

JemimaPuddleCat · 30/03/2020 08:20

This whole "non-binary" thing is the weirdest part of the brainwashing, to me.
I will generally do my best to respect whichever pronouns/name someone wishes to call his/herself, but will not be castigated if I use the most glaringly obvious one..

nauticant · 30/03/2020 08:16

It's about compelling people to do something they struggle to do and getting a kick about exerting that control. It goes by a number of different terms.

Staypositivepeople · 30/03/2020 08:08

I absolutely don’t understand all this ,perhaps I’ve reached peak knowledge as someone on here coined the frase.
Sam Smith is a man ,..why does he want people to use they ,they refers to more than one person....confused somewhat 😮

nauticant · 30/03/2020 08:04

Here's a photo of Sam Smith being respectful:

twitter.com/samsmith/status/1232330662910230528

This respect thing is a one way street isn't it?

zanahoria · 30/03/2020 08:02

Elton grew up at a time when being homosexual could land you in jail, went through years of tabloid intrusion into his personal life, listened to entire football crowds enquire what he did in bed, saw friends die of AIDs but has finally arrived in a country where he can marry and adopt kids. Is it any wonder he doesn't give two hoots about all this.

Deliriumoftheendless · 30/03/2020 07:56

Good luck out tantrumming Elton John, kids!

yetanotherusernameAgain · 30/03/2020 07:51

Whoever wrote that article couldn't maintain using Sam's preferred pronouns either - I saw one "him" and a "his".

OhHolyJesus · 30/03/2020 07:39

Sam Smith will be pleased to be getting some attention I imagine.

Will Elton have to apologise? Hope so. More exposure for the NBs and their demands.

I don't get the argument about preferred pronouns, "Sam Smith uses they/they pronouns". Well he doesn't use them does he, others use pronouns to talk about him, so unless he talks about himself in the third person in a way so to use his own preferred pronouns on himself (which is possible) then the pronouns someone uses is not up to Sam and therefore will always be preferred as he's not the one using them.

And Elton John isn't an LGBT icon he is a gay icon.

CoolCarrie · 30/03/2020 07:32

That’s very funny , no doubt Sam will be weeping on camera again!

PicturesOfCats · 30/03/2020 07:29

Lol

Elton and Sam Smith