Petition based on lies and misinformation

It's not the first, nor I expect it will be the last petition to libel The LGB Alliance, but it doesn't matter as they don't have legs.

Stephen Ireland did a 38 degrees one not long ago, it currently has 277 signatures, the last was about a month ago, the last comment 5 months ago. I'm sure Boris can't wait to receive it as promised.

Grey Rock to all disrupters, I pleased that the response from LGB A is to focus on the task in hand.

Staffori that’s helpful to know. I think it’s great that are going for charity status- it confirms organisational transparency, gives public confidence when donating money, gives their spokespeople gravitas with many audiences, secures internal governance probity and sustainability, tax reasons, all of it.

Charities are still welcome to do political campaigns so long as they are within their legal purposes for being:

More here if anyone is interested:
www.gov.uk/government/publications/speaking-out-guidance-on-campaigning-and-political-activity-by-charities-cc9

I'm surprised LGB Alliance wants charitable status as I thought they would be more into political campaigning but, as someone who used to work for the Charity Commission, I can guarantee that the only thing that could prevent them from gaining charitable status would be if their objects did not meet the required criteria. There is the Law governing charities and there are petitions from hateful morons. Guess which one the Charity Commission goes by?

Reported. Glad to support LGB people. Male supremacism harms us all — and what else can you call it when men demand access to women’s spaces, women’s organisations, even women’s bodies?

I cant believe the petition is still there and getting loads of signatures.

I thought I was too cynical to be shocked but I was wrong. I reported it as defamation.

I'm wading in here too, I've been watching this on the sidelines far too long now, reported that petition and you'll all probably be hearing more from this uppity feminist bitch.

Reported.

Would I be wrong in saying that even under Apartheid men did not use womens toilets, regardless of skin colour.

I honestly dont see how LGBA is anything like Apartheid.

Its not.

LGB Alliance is advocating for the rights & well-being of lesbians, gay men & bisexual people.

Scottish Trans Alliance advocates for the rights & well-being of people who identify as transgender based in Scotland.

Its a not uncommon false allegation made by transactivists that sex based Safeguarding and/or rights are akin to race segregation.

eg Susie Green (Mermaids CEO)
Guardian May 2018
'Schools pulled into row over helping transgender children
As more teens come out as trans, experts clash over how schools should help'
(extract)
While the Allsorts advice states that “trans pupils or students should have access to the changing room that corresponds to their gender identity” and that in PE lessons, students “should be enabled to participate in the activity which corresponds to their gender identity if this is what they request”, [Stephanie] Davies-Arai argues that shared changing rooms present difficulties for some girls. Few teenage girls will be willing to admit that they feel uncomfortable sharing a changing room with a biologically male student, she says.

She points out that the technical guidance on the Equality Act for schools suggests offering students “private changing facilities, such as the staff changing room or another suitable space” – the approach taken at Miles’s school.

Susie Green, CEO of the charity Mermaids, disagrees, saying the debate about single-sex toilets seems “engineered to whip up fear” and is equivalent to “arguing people of colour shouldn’t be allowed to use the same toilets as white people in case they make them dirty”. (continues)

www.theguardian.com/education/2018/may/15/transgender-row-teachers-afraid-challenge-breast-binding

I honestly dont see how LGBA is anything like Apartheid. Trans people arent excluded from the LGBA, it's just their trans status wont be centred as part of the movement. But obviously that would never to for the majority of trans people.

Just like I, as a heterosexual woman, can support their aims without kicking off that my sexual orientation is being excluded.

I’m so pleased to have found this section of Mumsnet.

I for one am increasingly concerned about this erosion of the term ‘sex’ in favour of gender on official documents/forms etc and I cross out the word ‘gender’ and replace it with ‘sex’ every single time.

I’m so glad to read these threads and to realise that there are many other ordinary older women like me, who are also feeling disgruntled with the obvious erosion of our hard fought rights, as if we are no longer
relevant.

He's blocked me too @littlbrowndog I've never interacted with him either but it's par for the course. Anyone who follows or likes any GC content is on a block list. They can't back up their arguments online with intelligent people I suspect.

There is something deeply uncivil about privileged heterosexual white folk seeking to silence and/or coerce lesbians by appropriating the experiences of black women, children & men under race segregation in US or South Africa.

But what about us heterosexuals, why are we being excluded? What about uuuuuussssssssss you bigots? 😒

Fred Sargeant twitter comment,
"One way supporters can help is to go to the petition, skip signing and scroll to the bottom of the page to report the discriminatory intent of the petition. It's easy."

twitter.com/FredSargeant/status/1244424033589964802

Velvet Chronicle by JULIA DIANA ROBERTSON
February 16, 2020

'Stonewall Vet Fred Sargeant on Ellen Broidy: “This is one of those important unknown stories.”
(extract)
"Fred Sargeant recently reached out to make sure I’ve heard this story—to make sure I know about Ellen Broidy.

If you don’t know who Fred Sargeant is, you should—He was on the team of four that organized the first-ever gay liberation march that took place on June, 28, 1970. Ellen Broidy was on that team as well. Sargeant’s concerned about how lesbians, like her, are so often pushed to the sidelines, or omitted from his-story altogether.

It’s heartwarming that he’s reached out with this. Far too often, we’ve seen lesbians spark a movement, only to watch as credit is redistributed to the male standing closest to her in a room. Maybe he’s not even in the room. Maybe he’s sleeping on a park bench uptown.

We’re not only sidelined or omitted, these days it seems we’re only unearthed if it serves the current revisionist narrative—We’re watching an overwhelmingly male-dominated media revise our history, reassigning our sheroes, ‘he-roes,’ at death.

One of the most glaring examples of this, is what’s happened with Stormé DeLarverie, the Black butch lesbian who threw the first punch at Stonewall and gave the call to arms that kicked off a revolution—“Why don’t you do something!?” She’s not only had credit stolen, been sidelined and omitted, she’s been rebranded, postmortem, as “he.” And mainstream media couldn’t care less about how upsetting this is to the lesbian community—to the people that knew and loved her.

Fred Sargeant was there, and he’s trying to help keep gay and lesbian history intact.

One year after DeLarverie threw that first punch, the first gay liberation march took place, and Fred Sargeant, along with Ellen Broidy, Craig Rodwell and Linda Rhodes, founded that first-ever march—an event that now takes place every year." (continues)
thevelvetchronicle.com/stonewall-vet-fred-sargeant-on-ellen-broidy-this-is-one-of-those-important-unknown-stories/

Old Tinsel saying: "those who hear deafening echoes generally dwell in chambers".

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Louis Brandeis (American lawyer and associate justice on the Supreme Court of the United States from 1916 to 1939)

"Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants"

I may not be outside, but dayam, the sunlight sure is blinding on here.

Excellent. Glad she's still there.