Zoe has gone woke

I’m afraid I’ve deleted it as no sense will be made of the data rendering it worthless.

I totally agree, all.

Who does every flippin thing have to centre gender ID these days? In most instances it is irrelevant and in some downright dangerous to classify on the basis of feelings over biology. And downright insulting to some of us.

It's been changed?

How fucking pointless.

Everyone knows what sex is.

If somebody 'assigned' me a sex, it wasn't at birth as my sex was already known. Does that mean I can't answer that question? Utterly ridiculous. Surely they should change it so that I too can feel 'validated'.

...Whoever is behind Zoe...

I was about to say something similar to Kit19. In a global crisis, these people are still so narcissistic that they had to make it all about them.

is behind Zoe is still in the pandering mindset because it’s been programmed in to our society and hasn’t yet been reversed fully.

But both the UK and Scottish Parliaments have kicked GRA aside for now. That is a huge difference we have made. Had we done nothing, self-ID would probably be law by now throughout the UK.

And when this crisis has passed, nobody is going to have an ounce of sympathy left for narcs and their false victimhood.

Point out, if you wish, that the incoherent language they are now using might make it harder for people to understand. But don’t let this get you down.

If anyone needs to get over themselves it’s the TRA. In a global pandemic where biological males are at a far greater risk of death than biological females, TRA have decided that the scientific survey used to capture crucial data needs to include the magical sex assigning fucking sorting hat

It’s embarrassing and pathetic

Yes, Clitterati, same here when I signed up. Have got over myself and will continue to add data, in the hope that it helps, but it really REALLY fucks me off that this happens.

They absolutely WERE asking for sex at birth a few days ago when I signed up.

Still the choice of name is interesting

But definitely another thread

Should we really talk about ‘mother tongue’ in this day and age. We all know there are no mothers. Only birthing persons.

Zoe is the name of the company.

"It's George who named the company – ZOE means 'life' in Greek, his mother tongue."

joinzoe.com/about-us

'The free monitoring app was developed as a partnership between researchers at King’s and health data science company ZOEE_ - itself a spin-out from King’s - and is widely available, at no cost, to health staff and the general public who wish to contribute to this research.'

www.kcl.ac.uk/news/symptom-tracker-app-hits-15-million-uk-users

Whatever anyone 'identifies' as, the risk is higher for males. It's blunt and it needs to be.

It’s so stupid. Why don’t they just ask what sex you were at birth.

Assigned is like what does that even mean

Assigned is so stupid to use.

BeetrootRocks

Out of interest why is it called Zoe?

Now that is an interesting question.

Correct. Their narcissism is also met with meek accommodation at every turn.

Wait so originally it just asked what sex you were when you were born and the TRA decided that the most useful thing they could do when the uk faces a pandemic was lobby a social enterprise to add in “assigned at birth”? Their narcissism really does know no bounds

The question originally was what sex you were born - options male/female - when I started about four or five days ago. I remember finding it refreshingly to the point. There is no need to know what gender I do or do not identify as, coronavirus does not care.

I also find that really scary.

The way ‘round this is to send them an emailing politely saying have they considered that this question is not very inclusive of people for whom English isn’t their first language? And don’t they want accurate data from that approximately 5-10% of the population?

Make them feel bad for not being woke enough - it’s the only thing that will have an effect.

For gods sake. Why would anyone except the most outrageous of narcissists stuck down their own rabbithole want to lobby the NHS or UCL or whoever it is on such a thing, at a time like this and a time when it is known that this disease has a sex bias in severity?

Publicly gathered data needs to ask the clearest and simplest possible questions of the public, many of whom will be feeling ill and stressed when they are trying to enter data.
Why are the organisers pissing about obscuring the questions for the majority of people and at the same time making the question offensively political in a way that is objectionable to others. It makes no difference here for COVID symptoms records purposes what someone identifies as. It just isn’t relevant.

They could very reasonably just ask ‘were you born male or female’, which covers every human being born, regardless of their subsequent identity thoughts, which are not relevant to this data gathering exercise.

That way nobody would be confused and the data the researchers gathered wouldn’t be potentially mucked up by people not knowing what to answer because we all really know that babies are not ‘assigned’ a sex arbitrarily at birth. Plus even I as a GC woman find it hard to know what to write when asked what my gender identity is.

Triggered ? Nah - I leave that to those who can’t clearly state what sex they are, always have been and always will be. Personally I’d rather they were triggered and the rest of us could carry on employing clarity of language and rational thought both of which have always served us rather well.

Rather than covid tracker or something

Why are so many apps and things given female names?

Another thread probably and one we've done before

Out of interest why is it called Zoe?