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Rapid onset woke intolerance

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BovaryX · 24/03/2020 10:32

There is a funny article by Celia Walden in the Telegraph which describes how CV has temporarily silenced the usual herd of swooning fans who cluster around to breathlessly applaud and retweet every vacuous woke celeb pronouncement.

^In the first of a poignant three-part Instagram video detailing Sam Smith’s “quarantine meltdown” last week, the multi-platinum award-winning singer reassured fans that they were self-isolating and suffering from “a bit of a headache and allergies”.
For those who missed it, last year Smith announced “I am not male or female. I think I float somewhere in between”, and asked to be referred to with the pronouns “they/them”. not “he/him”. So you might need to bear with me on this next bit…
By part three of Smith’s video, they seemed to have deteriorated quite considerably, and was pictured sitting on the doorstep of their £12 million Hampstead home in floral pyjama bottoms, sobbing into their hands.
Just a month ago, this would have been a masterful post, perfectly choreographed for Smith’s ‘woke’ followers and entirely in keeping with the victimhood culture he has become a figurehead for. When “body issues” were the celebrity sympathy tool du jour, the 27-year-old Brit “bravely” spoke out about “battling” those, and was later hailed “a hero” for coming out either as non-binary or genderqueer (at the time, they weren’t really clear which)^

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Abraid2 · 24/03/2020 14:06

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AwdBovril · 24/03/2020 13:57

Fab, thanks for that @BetsyM00. I never remember how to check if a page has been archived (I am a natural Luddite).

ItsLateHumpty · 24/03/2020 13:52

Seriously though, is there any musician who everyone would agree is great?

Yes. Me! I ID as amazing. And Great. And They Them Shem.

Also I can sing your socks off.

Pay my retainer, and you'll see how brilliant I am at ID Star I am Stupefying and Bald. Watch me ArchersGinGlitterball

Binterested · 24/03/2020 13:45

Oh did they ? Hahaha. Fortunately my ears are still my own and my opinions are still my own (just) and I can still say that Sam is a horrible singer. Even before the nonbinary balony I used to lurch for the radio when their godawful whining came on.

I do agree that it’s mostly a matter of opinion and we don’t all have to agree that, eg, Frank Sinatra is a great singer. I think we can probably go so far as to say though that Sam Smith ain’t no Sinatra Grin

also he just cannot sing and that is a stone cold fact

koshkatt · 24/03/2020 13:34

Sam Smith is an immature, attention seeking, self absorbed, whiny arsehole. Just like the rest of them

Oh yes.

feelingverylazytoday · 24/03/2020 13:34

I think both woke culture and celeb culture are going to take a bit of a bashing.
The only celebs and public figures who will come out of it looking good are going to be those who use their social media in a socially responsible fashion, ie sharing accurate and important information rather than seeking attention and self publicity.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 24/03/2020 13:32

Someone on the deleted thread told us we weren't allowed to say that and had to "admit" that they is an excellent singer. At which point I began to wonder if they-the-poster were in need of a nice earwax cleaning treatment.

Seriously though, is there any musician who everyone would agree is great? It's so funny when people get all "no you can't say X isn't brilliant that's just factually incorrect".

Binterested · 24/03/2020 13:29

They is just a terrible singer.

SpongeBobJudgeyPants · 24/03/2020 13:21

Every cloud, and all that.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 24/03/2020 13:02

I can never quite figure out if Prick News have some sort of third columnist working from within to make them look as ridiculous as possible.

EmpressLangClegInChair · 24/03/2020 13:01

Prick News were calling Sam Smith a hero earlier. I think they were probably serious.

Lordfrontpaw · 24/03/2020 12:55

At least Sam didn't sing.

BetsyM00 · 24/03/2020 12:53

I wish the Telegraph did share tokens. It looks like a really good piece.

Some kind soul has archived it: archive.vn/nEKkG

truthisarevolutionaryact · 24/03/2020 12:43

Have just had a look at the comments on Sam's instagram account. People are not impressed Hmm

BovaryX · 24/03/2020 12:37

Apart from anything else, Sam Smith must've set up a camera to film them self crying. Surely that would give anyone, pause for thought, irrespective of the current crisis

Excellent point Datun That speaks volumes about the performative nature of this ersatz victimhood. It's woeful.

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SophocIestheFox · 24/03/2020 12:21

Piffle! This is my new word of the day, thanks whereyou Grin

Part of me feels that Sam is probably struggling with depression, and I feel kind of sorry for Sam, but then again, Sam subscribes to an ideology that makes Sam think liking make up makes Sam somehow a woman, so my sympathy runs dry there.

Datun · 24/03/2020 12:13

I've just looked up emetic. The second time today I've laughed out loud.

WhereYouLeftIt · 24/03/2020 12:12

"I saw some glossy mag's "this is how the Kardashians etc are self isolating in style" article and was all, this is why people in the French Revolution rolled out the guillotines."

I've never subjected myself to this Klan, but I can imagine Grin.

WhereYouLeftIt · 24/03/2020 12:11

Pleased that it's the Telegraph publishing this piece - they also have the self absorbed David/Diana whinging about his/her hair weave flapping further from his scalp without hairdresser attention. It's nice that the Telegraph's readers will have this to counter that piffle.

Dances · 24/03/2020 12:10

Celia Walden is married to Piers Morgan.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 24/03/2020 11:59

Apart from anything else, Sam Smith must've set up a camera to film them self crying.

Excellent point, Datun. I have also noticed a satisfyingly robust response to what seems to have been meant as a heartwarming sleb joint enterprise to cheer us all up - that video that was going round on Twitter the other day showing lots of slebs singing bits of Imagine all spliced together. I couldn't bring myself to watch it. Just from the stills I couldn't avoid seeing it looked emetic.

CheriLittlebottom · 24/03/2020 11:50

this is why people in the French Revolution rolled out the guillotines.

Grin Quite!

TheDogsMother · 24/03/2020 11:46

Well there's one good thing to come out of all of this ! Hopefully we won't have to listen to this type of crap for a while. Meanwhile, back in the real world ....

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 24/03/2020 11:45

I saw some glossy mag's "this is how the Kardashians etc are self isolating in style" article and was all, this is why people in the French Revolution rolled out the guillotines. I mean, not that I'd want the backlash to go anywhere near that far, but seriously, who the fuck cares about some spoiled arsehole's self absorbed babbling and endless selfies during a global crisis. If this in any way undermines the celebrity industrial complex then good.