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Andrew Moffatt No Outsiders online lessons

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GRAConcerns · 23/03/2020 13:00

NC but regular FWR poster.

So, as the nation's children are at home, Andrew Moffatt is going to be creating videos of his 'No Outsiders' books and assemblies for them to watch.

This is being promoted by schools already and I'm concerned parents will have no idea about the harm this material promotes in relation to girls and gender ideology.

If you work in schools please keep a close eye on this.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 13:48

Thank you Moles, excellent links.

Somewhere I have the article where it seems to morph into AM's work. I'll try to find it.

MoleSmokes · 14/04/2020 13:14

Andrew Moffatt - TES Profile March 2019

www.tes.com/news/i-remember-being-outsider-teacher-centre-lgbt-row

'I remember being an outsider' - the teacher at the centre of LGBT row
Tes profiles Andrew Moffat, the No Outsiders teacher shortlisted for the $1m Global Teacher Prize

It could almost be a script from a Hollywood movie. In the space of a week, Andrew Moffat went from enduring bitter protests outside his school gates calling for his sacking to being feted in front of royalty as one of the world's best teachers.

The assistant head of Parkfield Community School in Birmingham has been under the national and international spotlight for weeks. Abroad, he has been honoured as a finalist of the $1 million Global Teacher Prize. But at home, he is at the eye of a storm about what community cohesion and conflicting values mean in modern Britain.

There are serious issues at play in the controversy surrounding the No Outsiders lessons he devised and it can be easy to forget that there is an individual human being – a teacher in a local primary school – caught up in something that has become so much bigger than him.

So, how has he coped?

'No Outsiders is community cohesion'

Moffat was made an MBE for services to equality and diversity in education in 2017 for his development of the No Outsiders programme. He designed the course in 2014 to cover a child’s seven years in primary school, and it has since been adopted by schools around the country.

The aim is to help pupils understand and accept the diversity of people in modern Britain.

As Moffat explains it, “No Outsiders is community cohesion. It’s about different people in the UK today, it’s about Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Sikh, black, white, brown-skinned, disabled, gay and lesbian, different families.”

It has become controversial in recent weeks because of the "different families" LGBT element, and some Muslim parents have held demonstrations outside his school calling for the lessons to be scrapped.

The school has now suspended the programme pending discussions with parents – a move Moffat supports – but he stresses that No Outsiders is not about “LGBT lessons”, and only four of the 35 lessons have an LGBT focus.

And No Outsiders does not, Moffat also stresses, have anything to do with sex education.

“If you ask any four-year-old in our school ‘What’s No Outsiders about’, I know they will all say the same thing: 'We all play together. No-one’s left out.'”

'I used to live on Smash Hits'

The origins of No Outsiders are deeply personal.

Although Moffat did not know he was gay when he was at primary school, he says he was “always different to the other boys”. The separate boys’ and girls’ playgrounds at his middle school was “horrific for me”.

“The whole No Outsiders thing does come from that. We are all products of our youth, and I remember being an outsider, especially in that boys’ playground.

“I have really hard memories of being on my own, literally by the wall, because I couldn’t relate to any boys. There were very few boys who were prepared to come and talk to the ‘poof’, which is what it became quite quickly.”

Many of his reference points came from pop culture – “I used to live on Smash Hits” – with figures like Boy George, Marc Almond and Frankie Goes to Hollywood prominent, although Bronski Beat and Jimmy Somerville were “the closest to what I thought maybe a gay person was”.

One memory, in particular, is seared into his mind.

In the 1980s, gay people were rarely seen on TV, so he was desperate to watch a Channel 4 documentary about lesbians.^

“I can remember the first scene. It was a lesbian family sitting having a picnic in a park, and I can remember it clearly, mum saying, ‘Oh, what’s this.’ I said, ‘I thought we’d watch it,’ and my mum said: ‘Oh, I don’t mind gay people, but I don’t want to see them.’”

He is quick to emphasise that “that was what everyone thought”, and says his mother no longer takes the same view.

But he adds: “That was a huge thing for me, because I thought ‘OK, I can’t come out, my family won’t accept me’.

“I didn’t come out to my family until I was 27.”

He had girlfriends. “But I always knew this was a lie. And for me, I don’t want any child to go through that, because I lied to my family, my friends, I lied to all my loved ones, and I knew I was lying – and to those girls I was going out with, some of them for a couple of years.

“This whole thing about hiding yourself – I don’t want any child to have to hide who they are.”

Learning from his mistakes

The seeds of today’s No Outsiders programme lie in a project run by the University of Sunderland between 2006 and 2008, which researched how to talk about sexualities in primary school, and which Moffat was a part of.

He wrote a resource called Challenging Homophobia in School Using Picture Books and used it in his school in Coventry and for “little bits of training here and there”.

He wanted to work out how to do similar work in a more diverse area, so he went to a school in Newton, Birmingham.

He is frank about the mistakes he made there.

“It’s a lesson to be learned, because I didn’t get governor approval, I didn’t get parental engagement, and it wasn’t whole school – I just did it myself, with a couple of cool friends in Year 5 and 6, who dropped lessons in here and there.”

A letter of complaint arrived from a Christian parent and soon, the concern spread to Muslim families. His headteacher endured a public meeting she described as her worst in 30 years of headship.

He told her he would leave and found another job. When the press got wind of it, the story became “gay teacher resigns after Muslim protest”.

His new school was Parkfield.

“I wanted to go to a school where I thought I might meet the same challenges, so I wanted to go to a school where I knew it was mainly Muslim parents, because I wanted to work with the parents this time and I wanted to work out how you can teach equality lessons about everybody.”

He scrapped Challenging Homophobia, widened the programme to cover all equalities, and held 11 meetings with parents before rolling out No Outsiders.

“We’ve had four years of No Outsiders working superbly without a whisper of complaint. Literally not a whisper.

“In that time, we have had 29 parent workshops where we had parents coming in to show a No Outsiders lesson and to learn together, and that’s how we’ve moved forward.”

'There's nothing to do with sex education'

After all that time, why the controversy now? Moffat is clear: “I think it was hijacked, actually.”

He cites the timing of the government’s plans, finally approved this week, to update relationships and sex education for the first time in almost two decades.

“Someone made the link very early on in December from No Outsiders to sex education, and it’s not sex education. We have always been very clear on that.

“There’s nothing to do with sex in No Outsiders. There’s nothing about bedrooms, there’s nothing about how babies are made.”

'I want to be the teacher they can talk to'

Moffat didn't grow up wanting to teach, but knew he wanted to work with children.

He only lasted nine weeks in a job in children’s home – “It was just dreadful, and I thought oh my God, I can’t do this” – before becoming a youth worker.

“A lot of those young people had been excluded from school, or had bad experiences in school, and I thought that if I was a teacher, I could work with them earlier on to maybe stop that.

“I thought if I can work in primary and inspire them, and really try to work out what’s failing for them in school – I want to be the teacher they can talk to and make a difference.”

'Everyone's welcome in our class'

Amid all the controversy, what are the No Outsiders lessons themselves actually like?

At the Global Education and Skills Forum in Dubai last weekend, where the Global Teacher Prize final took place, Moffat gave a demonstration lesson.

It was engaging, with Moffat skilfully making use a picture of a piece of racist graffiti to encourage pupils to discuss the issue of diversity and acceptance. In another activity, members of the class were given the task of learning something new from one of their peers.

In a talk summing up the lesson, Moffat said we have to “teach children to love diversity” to counter the voices they might hear that are anti-diversity.

“What makes our class great is that we can have different hair, different skin, freckles, blue eyes, brown eyes, different religions, we can wear headscarves, we can have different languages, different families. Everyone’s welcome in our class, and that’s what makes our class a brilliant class to be in. We all belong,” he concluded.

Children were chanting 'Get Mr Moffat out'

So what, then, has it been like to be at the heart of a controversy that has seen questions raised in Parliament, debates on TV, and reports that the protests could spread across a series of cities?

Although Moffat displays the poker face he says he developed as a youth worker, it is clear it has had an effect on him.

Of some of his pupils joining the demonstrations, he says: “It’s very hurtful. I think the worst part for me was when adults who weren’t actually parents were getting children to chant 'Get Mr Moffat out.' Now that was awful.”

The school has paid for him to have counselling.

But he also sees the positives, welcoming the debate it has sparked, and even the children protesting: “I mean, you know, it’s hard at the same time – I wish they were protesting about something else – but it’s a democracy. It’s a great lesson for them, and we’ve just got to as a school manage it now.”

'My goodness, I'm going back full of confidence'

What’s next?

He says he has “had times when I’ve thought ‘I can’t go on, it’s too difficult’” and wondered if he should leave Parkfield.

But the Global Education and Skills Forum came at exactly the right time for him.

“One person who’s a headteacher said to me: ‘You don’t know the impact you’re having on education in Britain today.’ Some things really get you in the heart.

“My goodness, I’m going back full of confidence.”

At the Global Teacher Prize ceremony itself, which saw Kenyan nominee Peter Tabichi emerge victorious, Hollywood star Hugh Jackman praised Moffat in front of dignitaries and world leaders including Prince Edward.

After praising Moffat's sartorial elegance, the X-Men and Greatest Showman actor told him: “You teach kids to be proud of where they come from, at the same time to be tolerant and to be accepting of people who may look different, may believe in different things and who may come from different places.”

With Moffat determined to continue his mission in the face of opponents, we must wait to see whether this story will have the perfect Hollywood ending.

CV – Andrew Moffat

Education

1976-1980: Boldmere Infants School, Sutton Coldfield

1980-1984: Boldmere Junior School, Sutton Coldfield

1984-1988: John Willmott Secondary School, Sutton Coldfield

1988-1990: Josiah Mason sixth-form college, Birmingham

1990-1993: University of Derby (BA Hons English with drama/ American Studies)

1995-1996: University of Derby (PGCE)

2000-2003: University of Birmingham (MA emotional and behavioural difficulties)

2017-present: University of Birmingham (PhD, role of schools in reducing potential for radicalisation)

Employment

1993-1997: Detached youth worker, Derby City Council

1996-1997: Class teacher, Ashbrook Infants School, Derby

1997-2000: Teacher in behaviour resource base, Thornton Junior School, Ward End, Birmingham

2001-2009: Nurture group teacher, Limbrick Wood Primary School, Tile Hill, Coventry

2004-2009: Advanced skills teacher, behaviour management and inclusion, Coventry City Council

2007-2009: Healthy schools advisor, Emotional health and well being (one day per week) Coventry City Council

2009-2014: Assistant headteacher / manager of behaviour resource base Chilwell Croft Academy, Newtown, Birmingham

2014-present: Assistant headteacher/ pastoral care, Parkfield Community School, Saltley, Birmingham

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(Might just be me but I did not get the impression that people were concerned about NO in Birmingham Schools because of a mistaken belief that it was about "sex education" and "where babies come from".

The original "No Outsiders" project gets a mention but, oddly, is missing from Moffat's CV.

No mention either of the aim of Moffat's "No Outsiders" Charity being to prevent terrorism and recruitment to far right organisations.)

For balance, a reminder of Shelley Charlesworth's Review of the No Outsiders programme and materials on the Transgender Trend website:

No Outsiders : Queering the Primary Classroom

www.transgendertrend.com/no-outsiders-queering-primary-classroom/

R0wantrees · 14/04/2020 13:14

Now Moffat is enjoying his new role at the Excelsior trust, and already this year has visited 12 schools to train them and delivered 16 conference speeches and workshops, plus teacher training at universities.

If Andrew Moffat is still innacurately referring to gender/gender identity rather than sex within the context of Equality Act 2010 legislation (protected characteristics) this could prove to be a serious issue for The Excelsior Trust.

MoleSmokes · 14/04/2020 13:12

NeurotrashWarrior - Yes - Moffat's "No Outsiders" originated from a research project at Sunderland University.

I saw a conversation Renée DePalma, who was the Senior Researcher with the original "No Outsiders" project, can't remember if it was on Mumsnet or Twitter.

She did not know how the ESRC-funded project, led by herself and Elizabeth Atkinson, and the materials produced as part of the project had morphed into "Andrew Moffat's No Outsiders". He was involved with the original project but did not have a leading role.

The original website for the project - this link is dead - was nooutsiders.sunderland.ac.uk

"Select Committee on Education and Skills Written Evidence" October 2006

Memorandum submitted by the General Teaching Council (GTC)

SUMMARY

In spring 2006, researchers from the University of Sunderland worked in partnership with the GTC to explore the issue of homophobia in schools. The following key themes were identified:

(a) The invisibility of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender parents, despite the likelihood of their presence in the community, and despite the impact of the Civil Partnership Act.

(b) The emotional energy expended by lesbian and gay teachers in concealing their sexual orientation through fear of adverse reactions, and the concomitant effects on their wellbeing and teaching.

(c) The lack of representation, for children in families with same-sex parents (or other relatives) of their everyday life experiences within and beyond the school curriculum.

(d) The tendency of teachers (whether heterosexual or non-heterosexual) to take a reactive rather than a proactive approach to addressing sexualities equality, where it is addressed at all.

(e) The underestimation by teachers of the significance of homophobic bullying in primary schools.

INTRODUCTION

  1. The General Teaching Council for England (GTC) is the independent professional body for the teaching profession. Its main duties are to regulate the teaching profession and to advise the Secretary of State on a range of issues that concern teaching and learning. The Council acts in the public interest to contribute to raising the standards of teaching and learning.

  2. This memorandum provides evidence on one particular aspect of the Select Committee's inquiry—the issue of homophobia in schools. This evidence is taken from work that researchers from the University of Sunderland carried out in partnership with the GTC, exploring the issue of homophobia in primary schools. The Council supports Stonewall and its partners to highlight and challenge homophobic bullying in schools, which can blight the lives of teachers and pupils.

EVIDENCE OF HOMOPHOBIA IN SCHOOLS

  1. The urgency of addressing this issue is demonstrated by evidence—examined by Elizabeth Atkinson and Renee DePalma of the University of Sunderland—showing the continued prevalence of homophobia in schools, [1]and evidence that heteronormativity (the normalisation of heterosexuality to the exclusion of any other identities) is maintained in schools through both active and passive means. [2]

  2. School homophobia has been recognised and addressed in a range of international contexts. In the US, the National Mental Health Association asserts that while four out of five young LGBT people surveyed could not identify a single supportive adult in their schools, those that did identify adult support tended to report that they felt a sense of belonging in the school. [3]

  3. An Australian study linked the heteronormative environment in schools with depression, self-harm, and dropping out for LGBT pupils. [4]Research in Canada found that 40% of homeless youth identify as gay, lesbian, or bisexual, and that the vast majority of those interviewed remembered their school experience in strongly negative terms. [5]

  4. Research in Sweden suggests that violence against perceived homosexuals is enacted as a means of gender construction and is simultaneously a developmental, communicative, and social act. [6]This implies that reducing homophobic violence is more likely to occur through systemic social change than through simply preventing or reducing particular acts of violence. Such a change requires an interrogation of the assumptions underpinning heteronormativity, not only in terms of what is said and done, but also in terms of what is left out of the official discourse.

CHALLENGING HOMOPHOBIA: DOES EVERY CHILD MATTER?

  1. The GTC web forum Challenging homophobia: Does every child matter? was designed by Elizabeth Atkinson and Rene«e DePalma as part of a broader research project investigating homophobia in primary schools in the UK. The forum was hosted by the GTC for three months, from 30 January until 30 April 2006. As a research project with an equity agenda, the forum had the following goals:

— to learn more about teachers' perspectives and the challenges they face in challenging homophobia in schools;

— to use results from the forum to highlight policy implications for Government;

— to use the results to feed into Atkinson and DePalma's 28-month research project into teachers' best practice in promoting sexuality equality; and

— to contribute to the Education for All campaign led by Stonewall, which aims to challenge homophobia in schools.

  1. The GTC forum was part of a broader research project that began in 2004 and will conclude in 2008. Along with the results from the other phases of the research, the results from the forum research will help inform the next phase of the research project, a university-teacher collaborative action research project (see para 22).

Continued at:
publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200607/cmselect/cmeduski/85/85we04.htm

ESRC Funded Research

The ESRC site is down at the moment but this is where there should be more info about the original "No Outsiders" project:

www.researchcatalogue.esrc.ac.uk/grants/RES-062-23-0095/read/outputs/author

Hemingway, J. (2008). Speaking the unspeakable in forbidden places: addressing lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender equality in the primary school. Sex Education: Sexuality, Society and Learning. 8(3): 315-328

core.ac.uk/download/pdf/82422.pdf

BOOK

"Interrogating Heteronormativity in Primary Schools: The Work of the No Outsiders Project" 2009, eds Renee DePalma and Elizabeth Atkinson

"is a book that reflects on a research project based in primary schools and funded by The Economic and Social Research Council of the UK. This text is accompanied by another practice-focused work: "Undoing Homophobia in Primary Schools". The project was led by Elizabeth Atkinson and Renee DePalma in collaboration with researchers at the University of Exeter and the Institute of Education (University of London) and school and community based educators. Together, the team developed strategies and resources to address lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender equality in their primary education settings. An overarching aim of the project, according to an associated website (www.nooutsiders.sunderland.ac.uk), is "to create school environments and communities where no-one is marginalized because of their sexual orientation or gender expression."

(Moffat co-authored one of the nine chapters with Elziabeth Atkinson)

Download book "Interrogating Heteronormativity in Primary Schools: The No Outsiders Project":

www.academia.edu/1029463/Interrogating_Heteronormativity_in_Primary_Schools_The_No_Outsiders_Project

ARTICLE

‘No Outsiders’: moving beyond adiscourse of tolerance to challenge heteronormativity in primary schools Rene´e DePalma and Elizabeth Atkinson, British Educational Research Journal Vol. 35, No. 6, December 2009, pp. 837–855

Download article or read online

www.academia.edu/1029656/_No_Outsiders_Moving_beyond_a_Discourse_of_Tolerance_to_Challenge_Heteronormativity_in_Primary_Schools

Renée DePalma

Publications and research:

coruna.academia.edu/RenéeDePalma/

Elizabeth Atkinson

www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/82508236_Elizabeth_Atkinson

Judy Hemingway

www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/2021918413_Judy_Hemingway

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 12:59

I've recently done the online prevent training and can see how this book would be used as a part of a school's evidence that they're on board with that.

Afaik, the prevent training can be accessed and completed by anyone?

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 12:45

I looked on google books and reached my limit in the preface.

He's listed sex as a characteristic. He's also gone to Ofsted. Who are as much use as a chocolate teapot on the T issue.

Andrew Moffatt No Outsiders online lessons
NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 12:36

Including the one linking to I am Leo.

Andrew Moffatt No Outsiders online lessons
Andrew Moffatt No Outsiders online lessons
NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 12:32

I note that the "further" sample lessons linked on the website are carefully cherry picked to be less controversial.

All the original further lessons are still on his blog. Including the ones about T.

no-outsiders-plans.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2016-11-09T22:48:00-08:00&max-results=7&start=14&by-date=false

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 12:05

Kenny worksheet:

Andrew Moffatt No Outsiders online lessons
NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 12:03

The ks1 trans book is still in the new book:

It's the teddy one at the bottom.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 12:02

It's about difference which is good and relevant. But millions of red flags there under pop and olly.

As always the issue is that the trans ideology is that therefore trans is also fully acceptable and without harm. Which we know isn't the full story for children. Coercion into accepting that particular difference without question.

Though if Moffat is welcoming dialogue I wonder if he knows what he's opening up?

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 11:59

Kenny lives with Erica and Martina by Olly Pike:

Rainbows fix everything Hmm

https://twitter.com/moffat_andrew/status/1245620559636922370?s=21

9 views so far!

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 11:54

I can't open those links on my phone. There's some nice examples of work on his Twitter feed, mainly around difference. Lovely ideas actually.

Interesting tweet re the pink news coverage:

Andrew Moffatt No Outsiders online lessons
NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 11:49

Has the link to the home learning been shared yet?

excelsiormat.org/work-with-us/no-outsiders

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 11:43

Worth following his twitter feed as he's linked a book already.

This one is actually a lovely book linked to a child being ill and missing out on things.

twitter.com/moffat_andrew/status/1249991950364823552?s=21

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 09:42

Mole, that is a good video. I wonder if he's changing tact.

Other lessons around disability and difference were ok in the book.

He fucked up royally by using the EA.

The trans stuff was in early though; he trialled lessons with another teacher up here locally many years ago. Some sort of link to Sunderland university and a small research project.

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 09:37

Goose I'm a teacher, of 20 years. I agree with you.

I have more brain cells it's seems today. If I have time I will investigate a bit. (This lockdown business is phenomenally difficult with toddlers I must say. I'm grateful for outdoor space.)

My son's school has sent out its RSE policy for review. They follow NO but I noticed one clear line, that they were the teachers and wouldn't be fully endorsed outside agencies. NO is definitely an outside agency now it's a charity.

Not sure where they can stand using it in the curriculum now? The council funded the programme in a cluster of 6 schools.

The other thing is that now it's a charity, NO may be bought in by NHS? Under MH and lgbt. I know a commissioning dr who used funding for a lgbt charity into schools in this way. In response to increasing Gp visits by young people.

Though after corona I think funding for anything anywhere will be limited.

R0wantrees · 13/04/2020 19:43

I think they used the 'No Outsiders' as a theme for the third public speaking event.
Its quite possible that theyve also used the program in the schools that are part of the trust as well.
The public speaking event though was in its third year. Its lovely to see children speaking confidently about things that matter to them.

MoleSmokes · 13/04/2020 18:47

Did Cheshire Academy Trust not actually run the "No Outsiders" programme then, R0wantrees?? Crikey! It had me fooled, if that's the case Blush

R0wantrees · 13/04/2020 15:07

On the plus side for "No Outsiders" - genuinely - this video shows what a difference it makes when children are centred and adults listen to their concerns.

It was the third year of an annual project by Cheshire Academy Trust.
They chose to link to 'No Outsiders' as the topic for the speeches in the year featured.

Goosefoot · 13/04/2020 14:12

I work in a school currently, tutoring primary school children who have fallen behind in math and literacy. I can't say I have been hugely impressed by the educational or developmental insight of the teaching staff. They generally love children, and a few are quite good, but most are fairly poorly educated themselves.

MoleSmokes · 13/04/2020 14:10

On the plus side for "No Outsiders" - genuinely - this video shows what a difference it makes when children are centred and adults listen to their concerns.

The video is "Unlisted" but The Guardian article links to it (I think that is how I came across it).

It is a bit odd in terms of Safeguarding to see children so clearly identified by both name and school and with so many personal details included. It would have been a bit better, in terms of Safeguarding, if Mr Moffat had disallowed "embedding". Even better if it had been edited, cutting out or muting the parts where the children introduce themselves.

The video itself though is really good!

OhHolyJesus · 13/04/2020 14:07

Perhaps that's it Goose and the Vicar's letter offered a different POV that Moffat hadn't been presented with before, he just took the protests to be homophobic and didn't think to question the reasoning behind it.

I find it really depressing to think that there could be a great number of teachers who are 'shallow thinkers' in our schools, who don't necessarily go along with No Outsiders but simply think that asking questions of the programme is homophobic and therefore wrong. I'm hopeful that teachers, by the very nature of their profession, are more likely to be critical thinkers if not GC.

Goosefoot · 13/04/2020 13:58

Sometimes I think the real issue is that some of these people - Moffat in this case - are just very shallow thinkers. Someone who finds it a revelation that tolerate is different than celebrate, or doesn't appreciate that rights involve a lot of juggling and social negotiation - why would anyone think a person like that would produce something acceptable to teach kids about these issues? It's a very shallow understanding of people and of ideology, belief, and of human rights at the adult level.

OhHolyJesus · 13/04/2020 13:44

Wouldn't you love to read the letter from the Vicar? I'd really like to know more about that, I find it hard to believe that one letter changed Moffat's mind, not just because of how long he was working on this before it was launched and how strong the backlash was, but I don't think Moffat would change his approach overnight after one sincere letter. Hmmm.