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A few questions for feminists

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ConservativeV8 · 19/03/2020 18:58

  1. Why is feminism so small in number? They get plenty of airtime but it isn't catching on. Women know about it so why no support?
  1. Feminists want equality of opportunity and equality of outcome but how can you have both when it's impossible? You want to give women choice, but then want exactly 50% of men and women in each industry. This can only be achieved by forcing women (and men) to do jobs they don't want to or choose to do. Explain?
  1. Why do you think the earnings difference is due to gender when time and time again it has been shown it has nothing or very little to do with it. Why feminists not take into account the 40 or so factors which affect earnings, such as men are more likely to work longer hours, do more overtime, take less holidays, work more dangerous jobs, willing to relocate, willing to commute further, etc etc?

Please discuss.

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MindTheMinotaur · 19/03/2020 21:46

Annabelle Karmel has a great orange and lemon polenta cake in her book for fussy eaters.

Absolutepowercorrupts · 19/03/2020 21:37

Please post your lemon curd recipe again Bewilderness I was on a thread a long time ago when you posted it but before I could archive it the thread was deleted.
I have an aversion to lemon curd in a jar, ever since my mother scraped a layer of mould from the surface and expected us to eat it, so a homemade recipe would be very useful.

PertEllaTitsahoy · 19/03/2020 21:36

Is the python eating you head or feet first?

MrsDoylesTeaBags · 19/03/2020 21:17

At this time of night? With his bladder? I don't know Eoin but Red Pandas are adorable, much nicer than grizzly bears and pythons.

EoinMcLovesCakeJumper · 19/03/2020 21:10

Do you think he's gone quiet because he's gone to prepare a flask of weak lemon drink?

Thelnebriati · 19/03/2020 21:05

You are Simon Quinlank and I claim my £5 prize. Am I right?

terryleather · 19/03/2020 21:00

isabelle GrinGrinGrin

ClaraMumsnet · 19/03/2020 20:57

That's alright, I'm still trying to decide whether I want to be eaten by a grizzly bear or a squished by a giant snake. The big questions in life.

Michelleoftheresistance · 19/03/2020 20:49

I looooooooove the recipes, they're always fantastic ones. I need more lemon curd in my life!

Thanks Clara for extending tea time a bit on a boring day Grin

EoinMcLovesCakeJumper · 19/03/2020 20:47

Definitely a zoo. I can't go on amusement park rides any more because I am old and they upset my stomach. Whereas with a zoo, I could make friends with the red pandas and be accepted as one of their own.

EoinMcLovesCakeJumper · 19/03/2020 20:45

I'm intrigued - I thought there was only one way to make lemon curd. Know you of some special variation? I usually manage to scramble the eggs because I'm too impatient to wait for the mixture to cool down before I add them.

MrsDoylesTeaBags · 19/03/2020 20:44

Of course Deadringer, back to the important issues.

Would you rather live in an amusement park or live in a zoo?

TheBewildernessisWeetabix · 19/03/2020 20:43

Feminism is a broad church. If you believe women should have the right to vote and equal pay, you’re a feminist.
That is the meets minimum standards of decent human being definition.
Feminism is a political movement and not a cult or a church.

Feminism, despite years of backlash, is still the political movement for the liberation of women.

TheBewildernessisWeetabix · 19/03/2020 20:39

Always has conservative in his username. Which is super considerate of him. But yes, there are many basement dwellers.
I thought it was the Midnight Misogynist mistaking the time zone and had my Lemon Curd all ready to paste. Recipes give him the rage.

HotSauceCommittee · 19/03/2020 20:38

I wish the OP had been allowed to stay. Feminism is a broad church. If you believe women should have the right to vote and equal pay, you’re a feminist. It’s a broad church. I count myself as a gender critical radical feminist and there’s really nothing radical about it. I don’t support the Nordic Model (wont bore you with the reasons here), so am less than the ideal feminist, but I reckon most of us are, even if we don’t like the title.
Which I do, very much.

MrsDoylesTeaBags · 19/03/2020 20:38

I got Fleetwood Mac, but really quiet and I couldn't hear over the MRI which was even more anxiety inducing.

Deadringer · 19/03/2020 20:38

Women! Stop chatting amongst yourselves and answer my excellent points!

donquixotedelamancha · 19/03/2020 20:35

No admin girls coming over to me and flirting

Why does your mother need admin girls in her basement?

Do they not find it cramped to be doing admin with all the Warhammer models and star trek uniforms in the way?

Does the strong smell of cheese and onion crisps not bother them?

isabellerossignol · 19/03/2020 20:34

When I was in the MRI they made me listen to Katy Perry...

But on the plus side, they had you down, but you got up!

terryleather · 19/03/2020 20:33

When I was in the MRI they made me listen to Katy Perry...bear or python demise would have been a merciful release...

EoinMcLovesCakeJumper · 19/03/2020 20:29

MrsDoylesTeaBags I found the thrumming noises quite relaxing, and they gave me headphones and I got to listen to Graham Norton doing Grill Graham. I don't suppose the inside of a python offers Radio Two, though, and the digestive juices would probably sting a bit.

GrabtharsHammer good work, you paint an all too believable picture.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/03/2020 20:18

The world's most mediocre man? Is it Donald?

He's at least impressively orange. Maybe it's Iain Duncan Smith

ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings · 19/03/2020 20:16

Scene: it's 8pm in the local bar. A few people from the office are having one last after work drink. The midnight misogynist is there. He sees a a girl wearing a fitted shirt. He's seen her around before but doesn't know what she does - probably admin. Most girls do admin.

Midnight misogynist (MM): Hey, so, what do you think about feminists?

Admin girl (AG): I'm, I don't kn...

MM: I think they suck! I mean, they say they want women to have choices, but then they dont like it when they want to do porn and stuff. Discuss.

AG: I guess there's concern about exploita...

MM: Did you know only 9% of women are feminists? Discuss

AG: Why do you keep saying "discuss"?

MM: Yeh, I mean take you for example. You probably love doing admin part time so you can get home by 3 for the school run. The girls at our company just earn less because they're making different choices. But those feminists don't want you to have that choice. Discuss.

AG: I don't do admin, I'm the head of...

MM: Wanna come back to my house and play PlayStation? We'll have to be quiet after 10 when my mum goes to bed but I can totally stay up as late as I want...

AG: Oh... Gee... Thanks but I... I've really got to get going. Night.

AG walks over to a group of other "girls" who all look over their shoulder at MM and giggle

MM: She definitely wants me. Stupid feminists are just mad that I never flirt with them.

finishes drink in one long gulp

Discuss.

Scene fades out.

Fin.

EoinMcLovesCakeJumper · 19/03/2020 20:14

Mediocrity is but a distant, impossible dream to our Conservative friend.

WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles · 19/03/2020 20:13

Why do you use the term "girls"'when the majority of other pointless men who come here to beg for our attention use the term "ladies" instead? What is your reasoning? Which term do you think is more successful in making women think you're even more of a dick than you are?

Discuss.