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Suzanne Moore - naming and shaming

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Haworthia · 18/03/2020 23:57

Suzanne Moore is naming and shaming her Guardian colleagues/friends who signed the letter condemning her column. She’s obviously feeling completely betrayed but I’m worried this is going to backfire for her. Tell you what - massive balls though.

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Horseradishfemish · 19/03/2020 09:47

... simon hattenstone! that saddens me...

Me to. The world has turned to shit.

It's been a long time since that newspaper had any of my money.

BovaryX · 19/03/2020 09:46

Zealots not zealoys....

BovaryX · 19/03/2020 09:46

This cartoon posted by Suzanne Moore pretty much sums up the new zealoys and their hunt for heretics...

pbs.twimg.com/media/ES6qmVVXsAEISYg?format=jpg&name=small

BovaryX · 19/03/2020 09:40

It's not about trans issues, it's about freedom of speech

Good on Suzanne Moore for publicly calling out her denouncers. Owen Jones. Eva Wiseman. What a surprise. Not. They and 322 other alleged journalists don't believe in freedom of speech, diversity of opinion or that journalists should report news. They believe in an authoritarian pandering to the #no debate squad. The Guardian is no longer a newspaper. It's a propaganda outlet for aging activists.

stillathing · 19/03/2020 09:04

I liked Eva Wiseman. But she's no Suzanne Moore.

definitelygc · 19/03/2020 08:55

It's important that we know which journalists believe in silencing opinions that they don'`t like as it calls into question their credibility.

Absolutely. It's hardly a free press when people are conducting secret witch hunts against their fellow journalists. I would never sign anything like that unless I would be willing to say it publicly, neither should they.

Languishingfemale · 19/03/2020 08:43

I see she's promising more names. Good for her. It's important that we know which journalists believe in silencing opinions that they don'`t like as it calls into question their credibility.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 19/03/2020 08:36

Brave woman.

Floisme · 19/03/2020 08:20

Journalists objecting to their employer publishing an article they dnn't like.
At the newspaper that broke the Snowden story.

What to say?
If the names I recognise are anything to go by, they can't even plead youth.

And that's without touching on the personal betrayal Suzanne Moore must be feeling.

Kit19 · 19/03/2020 08:15

Kevin maquire has stuck his head up in support
twitter.com/kevin_maguire/status/1240550434558935041?s=21

definitelygc · 19/03/2020 07:51

Good for her. Signing a secret letter of condemnation of your colleague is such a pathetic, weaselly thing to do. At least have the decency to talk to her about it. I'm glad they're being exposed.

Helmetbymidnight · 19/03/2020 07:38

simon hattenstone! that saddens me.

eva wiseman - no surprise, ive never learnt anything of interest from her columns

TheMagiciansMewTwo · 19/03/2020 07:36

On Suzanne's Twitter.

IndoorWeather · 19/03/2020 07:32

Where are the names?

TheMagiciansMewTwo · 19/03/2020 07:27

I love that Tanya Gold is publically supporting her too.
I was surprised by Simon and Eva but not so much by the others.

Floisme · 19/03/2020 07:18

Wow Twitter is so compelling sometimes. - wish I'd followed it live (especially as I was still awake, judging by the timeline).

So raw.

Simon Hattenstone AngrySadHe always struck me as an honest, decent person and it'll be hard to read him again knowing this.
OJ - well the only surprise would have been if he wasn't there. Great comment though - brings new life to the word 'skewered'.

I don't see how she can continue at the Graun after this but I'm sure their loss will be greater than hers. And if I were an editor and had to choose between Suzanne Moore and that tawdry little shower, it wouldn't take me a heartbeat to decide.

Melroses · 19/03/2020 07:15

If you are signing a letter publicly condemning someone, you have made your views open to public scrutiny, surely?

AnyOldSpartabix · 19/03/2020 07:05

Looking at the thread, it seems overwhelmingly supportive.

Found this, which pleased me. Not specifically GC, but supportive of Suzanne.

Suzanne Moore - naming and shaming
SophocIestheFox · 19/03/2020 06:52

Go Suzanne!

The sense of betrayal is comimg off those tweets. These are people she knows and works with - can you imagine how it would feel to have your work colleagues basically sign a denunciation about you because of your opinion?! I would be fucking incandescent. These people are writers, could they not have used their words and just told Suzanne they disagree?

Obviously none of that applies to LOJ, I would be sorely disappointed if he wasn’t front and centre to put the boot into a disobedient woman.

FrankieManca · 19/03/2020 06:39

Eva Wiseman! Simon Hattenstone!

Jesus there has been some seizing up of brains, integrity and ethics at the Guardian.

It is not run by grown ups at all.

I used to have a subscription for the tokens. Got sick of whiny features, non stop recipes etc and cancelled. They didn’t even send me the most basic ‘sorry you have cancelled, could you tell us why’ tick box questionnaire.

Hold tight, Suzanne. And you are right: it is about free speech.

stillathing · 19/03/2020 06:18

I love her. I totally understand why she would do this. So much about support for trans ideology seems to be about blind faith. It needs bringing into sunlight and holding up to reason each time.

It also helps me to know which columnists have less integrity, are less able to exercise critical thought etc.

SameOldHorrorStory · 19/03/2020 02:30

Thank you @NoSquirrels

TheBewildernessisWeetabix · 19/03/2020 02:11

It's been going on all day. Advertisements inserted in OPs and comments.

NoSquirrels · 19/03/2020 01:42

She's named a whole bunch of people she clearly feels personally betrayed by. Fair do, I reckon. Why not? - sign your name to something = have it be known publicly. She is unrepentant and rightly so.

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