Suzanne Moore - naming and shaming

I'd like to address this nonsense about anonymously signing a letter being some sort of sacrosanct seal of the confessional protection.

I've signed a few letters in recent times that have been making statements in support of the principles I truly believe in. I have sometimes done this with relative anonymity because I genuinely fear the batshit behaviour of the TRAs who make rape and death threats, and I have vulnerable children whom I need to protect.

But, I have done so, weighing up the reality that if I put my name to something, I may well be called upon to own it publicly at some point, even given the risks, and I have signed in that knowledge because I have integrity.

If you do not believe that what you are signing is entirely right, do not sign it. Doing so anonymously, if you don't, doesn't give you a pass if you are ever revealed and you then claim you either don't really agree, or would never have said so publicly.

This mealy mouthed hypocrisy because you're embarrassed that you've been revealed to be a bit stupid and tend towards actual fascism is your shit to own.

Let me reiterate - I have signed things I believe in, and I will defend those things openly if I must. I will not whine that I thought there would be no one asking me to justify my actions, as though asking me to do so is being unreasonable.

some TRAs will use it as a justification for doing the same thing to GC people

There’s a lesson here, which is... don’t put your name to anything if you can’t afford the consequences if it is made public.

I wonder whether the support for Suzanne has taken them by surprise.

But few people like a bully, and it’s pretty obvious here who is being bullied. If they had no qualms about what they were signing, they wouldn’t need anonymity.

I think it's disgusting that this was a big secret. If they were proud to sign it, she should be able to share it.

As others have said, I'm actually pleased with how many of the "big" journalists haven't signed it. I'd heard of maybe three people on that list. Heartening to see that people like Zoe Williams, who have a different opinion, still haven't signed it.

Good for her.

The only columnists on the list, as far as I can see, are Owen Jones (obviously), Eva Wiseman and Coco Khan, who does a small column in the Saturday weekend section

Tim Jonze and Simon Hattenstone are journalists.

Coco Khan's weekly Saturday column is beyond pointless. It takes pointless to a new level.

Eva Wiseman has never written anything worth reading.

I’ve been to a football match or 2 in my time. What’s that they sing? Who are ya?

I am wondering if some of the journalists on that list are shitting themselves at the response on Twitter, and will do a "in hindsight signing this was a mistake" or "it wasn't about Suzanne Moore rather I signed it because of some other nebulous reason that is much less bad".

If they want to work for other news organisations in their careers, then this really isn't a good look.

Love how Owen Jones has his name at the end.

Like the Soviet political commissars on the Eastern Front who would be positioned behind the troops.

I know a few Agile Scrum Masters. The title makes me giggle everytime. Someone in the digital world had a great sense of humour developing that tech!!

I love how Owen Jones has his name last, presumably visualizing it as a grand concluding flourish, when actually it's probably the most expected anti climax ever.

Not the first time that's happened to him, I'll bet.

So many vacuous titles but this one: Agile Scrum Master - Digital
(misses point of thread completely

Interestingly no Ellie Mae O’Hagan (sp?). Besties with LOJ and wished TW (and only TW) a happy IWD.

I cancelled my digital sub over the whole cis nonsense, as did my husband. If Suzanne is asked to leave and if Kath V gives an inch to these fascists I'm done after 25 years of devoted reading. If she emphasises the importance of freedom of speech ill consider start paying again. And will definitely pay if she gives LOJ his P45. How someone who has proven himself to have zero political judgement is still being published is beyond me.

Who can blame her if she just can't stomach working there anymore? It's pure class that she is naming Team Hunt the Heretic. Bet they didn't expect to be exposed like that...

i saw a few commissioning editors who have a lot of power I would think.

There is a grand, bridge burning flair to this. As many PP have said, it does look like an exit from the Guardian, but there will be other opportunities on proper newspapers. What a dismal band of craven, pandering zealots. And one of them is the Science editor? No doubt that position on Guardian Towers requires a sociology degree.....

No Gary Younge. Hurrah!

No Hadley, no Marina, no John Crace, no Jonathan Freeland

The only columnists on the list, as far as I can see, are Owen Jones (obviously), Eva Wiseman and Coco Khan, who does a small column in the Saturday weekend section. So no Polly Toynbee, no Aditya Chakrabortty, no Simon Jenkins, no Rafael Behr, no Nick Cohen - not even Zoe Williams, interestingly. There are a few people who are relatively senior in other ways, e.g. the editor of the Long Reads, the editor of the Guardian Weekend section, some of the people who commission on the arts and culture pages.

Personally I think Marina Hyde is worth 100 Eva Wisemans, and quite frankly you could lose all the journalists on the list of signatories without losing very much from the paper.

I seem to be doing a lot of faces today but the end of that letter!
We look forward to working with Guardian leadership to address these pressing concerns, and request a response by 11 March.

Request a response? Please, please tell me they had one and that it ended in 'off'.

Also, amazing how quiet all of the names are on Twitter just now. LOJ is wanging on about Coronavirus as though he is a proper journalist, but the rest are all very quiet.

No Hadley, no Marina, no John Crace, no Jonathan Freeland. The journalists on that list should go find new jobs for campaigning groups because they aren't bloody journalists.

One of them is a commissioning editor for science

Love how Owen Jones has his name at the end.

Bloody hell - yes a fuck ton of woke non entities but some ppl I’m very disappointed to see on that list who should damn well know better!