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Jonathan Ross supports Glinner

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Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 18/03/2020 00:06

Johnaton Ross has tweeted about Grahame:

I struggle to understand the opinions of intelligent men I previously admired - Jon Ronson and Billy Bragg - that strike me as tragically ill-informed and depressingly self-aggrandising. I know you are paying a heavy price for this G, but I admire and applaud you.

twitter.com/wossy/status/1240056859790319617?s=20

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zanahoria · 18/03/2020 21:49

OJ's first effort was absurdly pompous, I am guessing someone at the Guardian twigged that a bloke telling women they are on the wrong side of history was not a good look. Deep down even OJ knows it was a failure, the tone was a rallying cry, he obviously expected new recruits to the cause and it is obvious they did not come. Since then he has gone back to preaching to the converted on twitter.

LadyQuarantinaPluckington · 18/03/2020 19:59
Grin
SophocIestheFox · 18/03/2020 19:28

I did wonder why Zoe Williams got the gig of writing the first post-Suzanne Moore piece (ok not an official right of reply but might as well have been) and not OJ

Talk about slim pickings for talent there...third alternative was a cranky toddler with crayons, and who would have noticed the difference?

Deliriumoftheendless · 18/03/2020 19:20

Back in the 80s (maybe early 90s) Jonathan Ross features a transwoman (or transsexual as she would have called herself back then) on his chat show (possibly The Last Resort). If I remember rightly- and please if anyone else remembers can you say- he was decent and respectful towards her (well as much as he was to anyone) but I don’t remember him treating her like a freak and was sympathetic to her and her boyfriend. I doubt very much he’s actually transphobic.

It’s all lost in the mist of time so I may be wrong but I seem to remember he was very supportive.

SisyphusLangClegRocks · 18/03/2020 19:19

Great to see Joe stepping up too

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Floisme · 18/03/2020 19:08

I did wonder why Zoe Williams got the gig of writing the first post-Suzanne Moore piece (ok not an official right of reply but might as well have been) and not OJ.

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 18/03/2020 18:59

Joe McGann has been tweeting GC for long while 👍

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/03/2020 18:48

Tbh, I think those articles are great.

Yes. They're their own worst enemy. And of course it's all clickbait for the paper.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/03/2020 18:47

To be fair he should have resigned from the disgustingly transphobic Guardian ages ago, if he wanted to support his trans siblings.

ThinEndoftheWedge · 18/03/2020 18:45

Anyone old enough to remember ‘The Upper Hand’?

Nice one.

mobile.twitter.com/JosephMcGann/status/1240333255456546818

zanahoria · 18/03/2020 18:40

If OJ is so convinced about all this why has he stopped writing about in the Guardian?

JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown · 18/03/2020 18:35

Tbh, I think those articles are great. There are going to be a lot of non-Twitter people reading them and thinking "Really? Jonathan Ross is transphobic now? But he didn't even say anything. Hmm"
For many of us, this started with a sense of unease and realising that something didn't add up. I'll bet there are a lot of Metro readers having that moment.

LadyQuarantinaPluckington · 18/03/2020 18:28

Wossy looking like he is standing very firm indeed, and most definitely from the FWR perspective - no animosity towards genuine trans human rights, but insisting that women's rights are not to be rolled back.

That's cheered me up.

And yes, yet again, I remember that there is only one LOJ and I have the great blessing of not being him. Praise the Goddess.

Datun · 18/03/2020 18:23

The public is waking up to all the empty, zero evidenced arguments - suicide rates, marginalised, most harassed, etc.

When you're claiming to be a besieged, oppressed minority actually on a twitter thread where you have managed to deprive the subject of much of his livelihood, purely for speaking out, people can see the deception.

zanahoria · 18/03/2020 18:07

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completely marginalised

SisyphusLangClegRocks · 18/03/2020 18:04

Stay strong mate!

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pachyderm · 18/03/2020 17:30

"besieged, marginalised and oppressed minorities" that are sponsored by every corporate behemoth you can think of and all mainstream political parties.

zanahoria · 18/03/2020 16:40

privileged little shit who writes for the guardian but claims his voice isn't being heard

CranberriesChoccy · 18/03/2020 16:21

@zanahoria

LOJ really is perma victim little twit

He must think people are stupid/illiterate/blind and cannot see what he's doing.

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 18/03/2020 16:15

zanahoria

He is tiresome.

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zanahoria · 18/03/2020 16:13

and he even has the cheek to link to the biased article while claiming victim status, a truly pathetic liar and nasty piece of work.

zanahoria · 18/03/2020 16:06

"To trans people, one of the most besieged, marginalised and oppressed minorities in Britain: you have few vocal allies in the media. But we are not going to stop using our voices to stand by and fight for you, whatever happens."

mobile.twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1240285494552014848

few vocal allies, already had two absurdly biased articles

LOJ really is perma victim little twit

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 18/03/2020 16:04

Jonathan Ross now trending on twitter.

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Melroses · 18/03/2020 15:39

At least I am not Owen Jones.

Thank goodness, there is only one of them. (counting blessings)

Qcng · 18/03/2020 15:26

Super, no grovelling apology so far!

I wonder if Jane Goldman is a mumsnetter ??

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