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"Men menstruate too"

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throwaway201809 · 17/03/2020 08:16

I'm currently studying a master's degree and my uni's Student Union has just posted the following about how "men mensurate too". At a time where we don't know what's going on with our degrees and the SU posts a long waffling statement about how men have periods. You couldn't make it up!

The uni already has self contained mini bathrooms with sanitary bins in all of them. They're great little bathrooms with a toilet and sink and are fully self contained.

It sounds really silly but this statement feels like I've lost the plot? Surely these people can't seriously believe that men mensurate? This is a good university! Surely these people know enough basic biology?

^^SU Liberation Officer statement

If some men menstruate too, why are there no sanitary bins in men’s toilets? This question was at the heart of a paper presented recently to the University’s Social Inclusion Committee by student officers.

University of Warwick policy supports people’s right to use gendered facilities in line with their gender identity. However, given that people of all genders may menstruate (including some trans men, transmasculine and non-binary people, as well as some intersex people of all genders), restricting the placement of sanitary bins to women’s and gender-neutral toilets forces some people who identify as men to use gender-neutral facilities.

Indeed, despite the University’s commitment to “be recognised as best in class in [their] approach to diversity and social inclusion”, Warwick Provost, Christine Ennew, recently deferred a proposal to extend the provision of sanitary bins to all toilet facilities on campus. Just days prior, however, the Provost had released a public statement in response to the University’s new ranking in the Stonewall Equality Index, stating that Warwick “will still have significant work to do to embed our commitment to creating a genuinely inclusive culture and environment on campus.” If installing sanitary bins in all toilet facilities is not an integral part of building a trans-inclusive university, what is?

An Equality Impact Assessment (tinyurl.com/uux4vla) for the policy of restricting sanitary bins to women’s and gender-neutral toilet facilities has found that there is a negative impact on five out of the eight protected groups, meaning that this university is currently failing its duty of care to provide adequate facilities for trans students in single-sex spaces. To make matters worse, gender-neutral toilets are not yet widely available across campus.

Warwick can no longer claim to be ignorant to the negative impacts of their policy restricting sanitary bins to women’s and gender-neutral toilets. We now call upon them to live up to their public pronouncements on trans-inclusion by demanding a firm commitment to providing sanitary bins in all campus toilets as soon as possible.^^

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Michelleoftheresistance · 17/03/2020 08:53

Only women menstruate. Just some women prefer not to call themselves women. That's about as far as it goes.

And yes, the world is about to lose all time and patience for this.

Sicario · 17/03/2020 08:50

"Hate to break it to you, kids, but you're just boring old run-of-the-mill dimorphic human beings. It's hard, I know, but you're not special. Sorry about that."

OneEpisode · 17/03/2020 08:49

That link isn’t an EIA it’s a cartoon of one, for instance they identify transmen etc as having the protected characteristic of “gender” and the poor transmen, transmascs etc have further to walk tinyurl.com/uux4vla

HPFA · 17/03/2020 08:47

We really shouldn't be too keen on seeing men menstruate.

www.thevintagenews.com/2018/06/22/parasite-egypt/

LynnSchmob · 17/03/2020 08:44

Yup, they are in for a hefty dose of “grow the fuck up”. Nobody is going to be interested in this self absorbed drivel. The western work is facing proper problems.

OneEpisode · 17/03/2020 08:44

How can this possibly show up on 5 out of 8 of the protected characteristics in a equality impact assessment? It could edge into the gender reassignment one, at best?

Sicario · 17/03/2020 08:38

Students have always been at the forefront of whatever the latest perceived social injustice is. It gives them something to get all het up about and makes them feel like Che Guevara when they wave their banners and shout their slogans.

No doubt life will come along soon enough and give them a healthy dose of reality.

SisyphusLangClegRocks · 17/03/2020 08:35

Considering how they initially handled the rape chat debacle, this doesn't surprise me at all.

NearlyGranny · 17/03/2020 08:33

Still some work to do to go higher on the Stonewall index, eh?

That translates as "We're still not quite crazy enough round here, but we're working hard on total crazy." The problem is; a body like Stonewall is trapped in a purity spiral to justify its continuing existence: there will always be more and crazier crazy to strive for until the whole thing implodes.

Post will probably get removed for smearing Stonewall.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 17/03/2020 08:32

Why are they crying about it when there are bins in the mixed sex toilets?

SadlyMissTaken · 17/03/2020 08:26

You would think the SU would have more important concerns right now.... The university facilities managers certainly will have

freelancedolly · 17/03/2020 08:26

Unfortunately this is the end point of idiocy that allowing 'anyone who identifies as...' into the loo of their choice results in. They'll cave in the end, no doubt about it, because there's no logical basis to refusing it once you allow female-bodied people into men's loos.

Roll on the implosion of TRA.

(I studied at Warwick 30 years ago and recall back then a student protest I was part of which made the national papers as the very middle class students went ballistic at not being allowed to park their cars on campus. Students will go full activism over the stupidest shit.)

CumbrianYellowBee89 · 17/03/2020 08:26

Omg!

Cal me old fashioned I don't care. But only women menstruate.
I'm all for supporting everyone's believe but there are only to genders; male and female. People's sexual identity is completely different yes, but gender is one or the other.

OhHolyJesus · 17/03/2020 08:24

I direct you and the SU poster to the Julia Hartley Brewer you tube video taking about tampon tax. It is a joy to behold.

Ask this person where the blood comes from or where the tampon goes.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 17/03/2020 08:22

Ooooh! From the title SU Liberation Officer and every paragraph... just Oh! Heaven help us all!

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