Harvey Weinstein sentenced to 23 years

I have no qualms about him dying behind bars.

It's like the line from True Grit

• Why did they hang him so high in the tree?
• Presumably in the mistaken belief that it would make him more dead.

Good. And I have no qualms about him dying behind bars.

Yes I think helpline numbers added would be good.

These women likely were vulnerable in some way though don't you think? I mean we all are to a degree sadly in this deeply misogynistic patriarchal world, but I suspect these were very young women. Possibly had already been victims of other abusers which is more common than anyone likes to admit.

If you've been a victim of one predator you're more likely to become a victim of another and not because you've done anything "wrong" but because somehow these bastards are very good at knowing who to target.

And I say that as a csa survivor myself and as someone who has since experienced other assaults and abuse.

I'm harder to target now but mainly as I don't have a life!

I would like the helpline numbers to be added to these articles.

I had a feeling you might say that

I’m okay with “developed relationships” because that was what he was doing in a way. I get a bit concerned about the term “grooming” because it seems like something that happens to the vulnerable....”manipulated” makes more sense to me I guess.

"Developed relationships with them"

In my opinion it's more accurate to say they were groomed. Adults absolutely can be and are groomed by abusers.

Particularly offensive as part of he and his defence teams argument of defence was that because they continued the "relationship" after the abuse occurred this meant that they consented to the abuse.

Graphista, I can’t see anything but I did notice there was no “if you have been affected by this issue” like there was with the man who raped men.

Thanks to the posters who reminded us of this case too

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-51841177

But I've just emailed bbc as I am quite unhappy with some of the wording in this article, I'm curious if others have picked up the same issue upon reading?

I’m at shocked he got so long.
Thrilled but shocked.

My ex was convicted of 6 counts of rape against two different women and he got 16 years. Got out after 8 of course.

I'm surprised he's only 67. He looks a lot older. Or is he is he faking / playing on that?

He's like Dorian Grey without the portrait.

BBC news just said he’s likely to fight, presumably means appeal.

Wankstain wasn’t convicted of all the crimes

Still can’t see the 20 vs 3 logic though

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3845289-Harvey-Weinstein-sentenced-to-23-years?watched=1&msgid=94618229#94618229

Be interesting to see what sentence gets handed out to this guy

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-51841177

Solo 45 was also convicted today
Today’s a good day.

Mockers you keep referring to posts of mine but without either quoting me or addressing me directly. Your rudeness wouldn't bother me but you've got the wrong end of the stick twice in regards to what I actually said.
I happen to know a lot about 'prison hospital's and the law so you can't school me. I also didn't say no one is saying he should die in a prison cell. Not engaging with you any more as talking about me like I'm not here is rude and I don't usually waste my time on such people.

I hope he dies in prison because I hope he serves 23 years. I hope he's scared and powerless and fucking miserable. I don't hope he's murdered, nor do I support capital punishment

A man who used his immense power to terrorise and abuse women deserves no sympathy or compassion.

Jail = punishment; deterrent; rehabilitation.

I'm surprised he's only 67. He looks a lot older. Or is he is he faking / playing on that?

What punishment do you think is in store for him, exactly, besides being incarcerated?

I hope none, but others posted above clearly disagree. Please read them also re the suggestion that no one is suggesting he should die in his cell. They actually are on this thread.

I for one am relieved to hear that. I wouldn’t think it right for prisoners to get all the treatment they’d get on the NHS, for example.

Well legally prisoners are obligated to be treated the same way with regards their health care. Socialised health care doesn't differentiate. Same for prisoners of war and such. It doesn't always happen but this is pretty clear at both the national and international levels. If you recognise people as human, they get the same medical care as anyone else. (And non-humans don't go to prison.)

What punishment do you think is in store for him, exactly, besides being incarcerated? He won’t spend his time breaking rocks.

A judge sentenced him to serve three years for Mann's rape and 20 years for the assault on Haley.

Does anyone understand how this sentence was calculated? As far as I understand the assault on Miriam Haley was that he forced oral sex on her. I'm not sure I understand the 3 years vs. 20 years thing.

People are sent to prison as punishment, not for punishment.

Everyone has human rights because everyone is human.

This may be a minority view, but that's not going to stop me believing it.

I asked on another thread what the prisons do for these prisoners but no one knew.I also don’t know what excuse Wankstain is giving for the wheelchair?

I think I read he just had a heart surgery, so that might explain the wheelchair.

Prisons in general struggle to give adequate health care to prisoners with real health issues. They usually aren't well enough equipped, there isn't the population in a prison to have the right kind of facilities for people with more specialised needs. They aren't really set up with the kinds of facilities someone who has less mobility needs, or someone who is losing their mental faculties. American prisons are also privately run generally speaking so they are profit driven.

“ Uncivilised in a conversation about Wankstein doesn’t compute”

Agree. He’ll have food, water, shelter. All good.

If someone stabs him in the yard, he’ll get medical attention. It’s enough. It’s more than he and his kind deserve though.

Uncivilised in a conversation about Wankstein doesn’t compute. Proper bleeding heart, aren’t you?