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Evan Davis misgenders a non-binary activist

116 replies

Polynerd · 10/03/2020 17:54

Did anyone hear the segment on non-binary passports on R4 PM just now? Evan Davis introduced the segment: "Christie Elan-Cane brought the case blah blah... I spoke to her earlier - " and then he realised what he'd said and literally stopped and spluttered for ages. Must try to clip it and share - it was so hilarious that DD came into the kitchen to find out what I was laughing at!

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theflushedzebra · 10/03/2020 22:06

Goddess, what's per pronoun for 'she' ? No misgendering intended above - I genuinely don't know.

Per/ Pis/ Pe ?

Polynerd · 10/03/2020 22:05

@1984in2019 I used to like Evan until I heard a piece on PM about incarcerated mothers last year. Evan's first line of questioning was "what about incarcerated fathers?"

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Binterested · 10/03/2020 22:05

If per means person then we are all pers. per se pers actually Grin

theflushedzebra · 10/03/2020 22:04

Just listened - it was inadvertently hilarious, wasn't it?

Poor Evan Davies - woker than woke and messed up the preferred pronouns. He committed literal violence live on national radio Grin

Guess what your subconscious was telling you Evan? That she's a female human.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 10/03/2020 22:03

I'm presuming 'per' is short for person?

It's just bollocks. Or should that be ovaries?

GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman · 10/03/2020 21:35

I thought that the point of a passport wasn't to affirm your identity but to let someone else check that you are who you claim to be. Hence the nice clear photo and so on.

But if someone else can have 'purr', am I allowed 'woof'?

1984in2019 · 10/03/2020 21:18

I love ED and I love that he has completely by accident shone a light on how utterly ridiculous this is.
Two very different interviewers today, ED and Piers M highlighted the sheer stupidity of gender identity ideology.

TinselAngel · 10/03/2020 21:10

If "pur"is "her", what is "she"?

HopeClearwater · 10/03/2020 21:07

Thanks for the link. Great to hear ED make such a balls of that. Phrase used advisedly 😉

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 10/03/2020 20:58

If I went on PM and insisted that the earth is flat, I would hope that Evan Davis would give me pretty short shrift. Balance doesn't mean everybody gets to say what they think unchallenged, no matter how batshit their views are. The BBC has got this wrong for years and years with climate change. Now this. Lord Reith must be revolving in his grave.

PreseaCombatir · 10/03/2020 20:57

It’s amazing how, because ‘purr’ Lol is so confusing, how his brain went straight to ‘her’ and not ‘him’ isn’t it? Odd that...

Binterested · 10/03/2020 20:54

Because she is a her isn’t she? His brain knew the truth. I’m taking a bet here that even MNHQ won’t make me say pur.

Sorry if I can’t, MNHQ, genuinely. But pur ?

PreseaCombatir · 10/03/2020 20:50

He said her, tried to correct himself, and then said her a second time. Brilliant 🤦‍♀️😂

Chiochan · 10/03/2020 20:37

I do hope he genuflected sufficently.

Binterested · 10/03/2020 20:30

😂 Listened just now. The dogs’ toenails were a more sensible topic of discussion.

As for Pur Passport, it sounds like Paw Passport and then we are back to dog toenails Grin

Whatever happened to just laughing at the delusion and self importance ? As I said on another thread I don’t want to laugh at people who are sad but this purperson (I’m guessing woman but I suppose I’m supposed to say Non-gendered entity) is just being pandered to and getting everyone to tiptoe round their delusion and that’s not healthy.

TopShelf · 10/03/2020 20:30

Got it - thanks.

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000g3jr

PreseaCombatir · 10/03/2020 20:28

Thanks all, will try again Grin

TopShelf · 10/03/2020 20:26

PreseaCombatir

Same, I thought it was just me and stuck with it a bit
and they were laughing because a dog shat in the show ring. Grin

Seventyone72seventy3 · 10/03/2020 20:20

Oh good grief. Per says that per has no choice but to continue campaigning. How about NOT campaigning and doing something useful instead? You can't control how other people perceive you anyway. Evan's reaction just completely underlined how impossible it is to refer to people with these pronouns.

Binterested · 10/03/2020 20:19

I got dogs’ toenails too Grin. Just going back to listen to the right clip now.

On the upside - no one I know is buying this now. Had a lunch with an old colleague today and we didn’t even really have unpack the issues. I said a few words and she said a few words and we were of one accord. Everyone who is a grownup knows this is nonsense.

WrathofFaeKlopp · 10/03/2020 20:10

PreseaCombatir
That's the 9th, today's show (10th) is on the right of the page.

WrathofFaeKlopp · 10/03/2020 20:08

Redshoeblueshoe
Yes, but pronounced 'Piz' of course.

PreseaCombatir · 10/03/2020 20:07

When I go to 27:30 on that link, I’m just hearing about a dogs toenails?

Hirsutefirs · 10/03/2020 20:06

If you’re a bloke non binary, it’s “piss passport.”

It’s really not difficult, bigots!

Or it might be “pass pissport.”

Redshoeblueshoe · 10/03/2020 20:05

Pis ?