Evan Davis misgenders a non-binary activist

“The thing at the moment seems to be saying there are as many intersex people as redheads.
No. There’s not.”

There don’t appear to be many redheads in China, India or Africa.

So the proportion of the World population having red hair is very low.

So it’s a handy way to deceive people about how common DSD conditions are.

but does bump up the numbers nicely if that's what you're trying to do...
Someone more sceptical than me might think so.....

Can't help noticing also that Evan was in no doubt whatsoever about which direction to "misgender" in, however un-binary this person supposedly is. No way he would have said "he" by mistake!

Is that the figure where they include any sort of issues with reproductive development, even where there isn't the slightest question about the person's sex? I read about some stats that were including hypospadias (where a man's urethral opening is in the wrong place eg on the underneath of the penis rather than at the end - which ONLY affects males!) and PCOS which only affects women, which makes it utter bollocks to claim them as "intersex", but does bump up the numbers nicely if that's what you're trying to do...

The thing at the moment seems to be saying there are as many intersex people as redheads.
No. There’s not.

Yes, what''s with all the "assigned at birth"?
Is there some kind of biological sex sorting hat? Thought not.

Good, I'm glad he fucked up.

Evan is a massive woman hater and his interview with Harry the Owl was a disgrace.

He's a shit replacement for Eddie Mair too. Carolyn Quinn would have been much better.

Oh. My. God. I'm so sorry I got the wrong day for the link! How mortifying! (but also hilarious - "slightly dirty toenails" made me laugh out loud)

Thanks for correcting me.

I also think we should complain to the BBC about the use of the phrase 'assigned at birth'

It is appropriated from intersex births at a time when diagnostic testing did not exist.

We must claw back our language.

It may be depending on how it is defined but nearly every one of the 1.7% will still be either male or female.

“The BBC web story quotes UN figures of intersex people being estimated at 1.7% globally”

1.7% is hard to believe.

Dear God, I've just listened to it.

The trouble is there will be a lot of listeners not up to speed on this who assume purr is intersex (they would probably think a 'hermaphrodite' as this isn't well understood and have sympathy)

Purr was quite clear that passports state sex while claiming to be non-gendered, not non-sexed.

Evan is a lost cause. I know blokes like him and he won't change. I'd lay a pound to a penny that he thinks 'sex work' is a liberating career too.

Ugh years

It was just so funny. I’m not sure why this person hasn’t had anything else to think about over the last 30 year’s

I might start using purr

Then I'll be down with the kids 😁 the grandkids that is

I heard it when I happened and I think I realised even before Evan did what he had done. Not had a chance to post about it until now but I did chuckle.

That was a deeply satisfying listen.

Per?
Oh FFS!

As for X on a passport - no. You are male or female, regardless of how you choose yo identify.

What indulgent bollocks...

I was sat in a bar/restaurant (can't remember which) with per and per partner in London on the next table once. This was before I knew who they (sp?) were but I remember them (sp?) because they looked like they were from the Matrix and just sat and stared in silence for the entire evening. I feel sorry for per that per has fought for 30 years only to lose but, as someone else said, I'd be fascinated to understand why.

I heard this and loved Evan tying himself in terrible knots. What a ridiculous issue to spend 30 years campaigning for.

I would also ask, if you have an X on your passport and you need to be intimately searched at customs, do you want a man or a woman to do that search? What if the person conducting the search has an X on their passport? How do I know if I would permit that person to conduct an intimate search on me?

Yes Christie 'per' is part of the word person and you can shorten it further to 'pr' if you chose but no one knows what you're talking about.

Evan knows you're a woman. All the listeners hearing your voice know you're a woman. If your passport says 'X' you're unlikely to be let in in most countries.

I really don't see what any of this achieves.

The BBC web story quotes UN figures of intersex people being estimated at 1.7% globally, the same as red haired people. Who are also either male or female. We don't have hair colour on our passports.

Honestly, what is the point?

Well I suppose both he and she both being pee is at least genuinely gender neutral

But then...
If She is Pee, then He is also Pee.

And I'm not having that, I tell thee,
I'm not having it.

TinselAngel

If "pur"is "her", what is "she"?

She is Pee and His is Pis.

Of course, duh