Piers Morgan with Lisa Nandy on Good Morning Britain

She’d like to be the future prime minister and she has the nerve to complain about someone being mean 🤦‍♀️ Put the whole self ID thing to one side and she still doesn’t have what it takes to be a leader. What a drip.

Another live demo of the Dunning Kruger effect from the Labour Party there.

I never cease to be amazed at how otherwise bright people seem to be able to outsource their thinking on this topic and just regurgitate nonsense sound bites at will without ever stopping to wonder if it makes any damn sense at all.

I'm sick to death of people focusing on whether or not someone is mean, rather than how fucking 'mean' it is to put a woman prisoner in a cell with a rapist as part of her sentence.

"She has done very well in keeping hold of support from the "he was very mean to Lisa" community"

She does seem to think that its all about him being mean and her being nice, she should grow up, he is an interviewer, she is a politician, he is meant to give her a hard time. Its about whether her ideas stand up to scrutiny not whether she is nicer than the person scritinizing her.

When did politicians stop thinking they were there to represent the electorate, and start thinking they were there to tell us what we should believe or be concerned about.

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When did politicians stop thinking they were there to represent the electorate, and start thinking they were there to tell us what we should believe or be concerned about.

Nandy seems to have no awareness of the concerns of ordinary people, the people she needs on side, if she wants to be elected Prime Minister.

Staggeringly naive.

A very good rebuttal would be
If kier starmer id'd as female and won the labour leadership race would that be fair?

Once again the Speccy is spot on.

"How do you save a party that doesn't want to be saved"

I just don't get it - does she actually believe she could win a general election with this horseshit?

Shocking to see her mangle what he said to make it sound like he was saying transwomen are grotesque instead of what he did say, that it was grotesquely unfair to women, in an effort to close him down.

Oh my god did she actually do this? Wtf?Talk about a stretch!

I do wish Piers would leave the whole 'identifying as a penguin' thing alone though. It just gives fuel to the 'your just like the homophobes of the past' brigade when they compare it to people saying that gay people would want to start shagging animals etc.

Should have been GMB

I have just played the video from GNB for my DW, she watched three minutes, swore at the screen and her parting words were - "she is a stupid POS"

Ah, yes. Mx Hubbard of the Pink Trainers.

Not only is she clueless, she has not a clue about how clueless she is.

Oh yes, This.

She is Socialist Royalty. Her Dad's name was mentioned in hushed and revered tones when I was at Uni. She probably thinks she got all the jobs she held on merit alone.

It is a pity Piers didn't hold up a photo of the weight lifter in question.

"There were rules in place. Men compete against men and women compete against women. Those are the rules, that’s how Women’s Sport was born."

Unfortunately, it is no longer that simple and it was largely down to one of the people Lisa Nandy supports and their undue influencing of the International Olympic Committee in 2015.

stillmed.olympic.org/Documents/Commissions_PDFfiles/Medical_commission/2015-11_ioc_consensus_meeting_on_sex_reassignment_and_hyperandrogenism-en.pdf

I agree. Piers Fucking Morgan. Susanna Reid was obviously making GC noises. I would love to see her be brave enough to take the lead on this.

She has done very well in keeping hold of support from the "he was very mean to Lisa" community.

Sometimes known as the “I loathe Piers Morgan” community. And let’s face it, he talked all over her during her answers—sometimes trying to get her to answer the actual question, which is fair enough, but other times reiterating his own stance and adding to his argument.

The collective view here might be different had PM been arguing a point with which GC feminists don’t agree. Might as well acknowledge that and think about it.

As for Nandy, I wouldn’t trust her to win any PMQ by saying ‘less heat, more light’; I don’t care for politicians who take a stance and THEN say there needs to be a committee set up to validate explore the stance (I’m side-eyeing you, Nicola Sturgeon); and to Nandy’s claim that there would be a need for rules...?

There were rules in place. Men compete against men and women compete against women. Those are the rules, that’s how Women’s Sport was born.

Ffs.

She has posted that one her own twitter feed

That means she thinks she did OK and wants more people to see it

Not only is she clueless, she has not a clue about how clueless she is.

It has really come to something when we are reliant on Piers fucking Morgan to defend women's rights against a candidate for leadership of the Labour Party. The world has gone mad.

My thoughts exactly. We’re fucked.

Nobody voted for Boris believing he was a nice guy, they did as he promised Brexit

I think a lot of people voted for him simply because he wasn’t Jeremy or Jo.

The twitter resonse sums her up, she is more worried about losing the moral high ground than losing the argument. Piers may be a bastard but he doesn't care as long as he gets his points in, he did that and and she couldn't answer them

Labour are looking to the next election in five years time, when all those little "twanz women are women!" tweens are able to vote. That's what this is about.

"she would come across as someone caring and full of heart."

Labour politicians often have this self image but I don't think they realise that voters just don't care and are more worried about policies.

Nobody voted for Boris believing he was a nice guy, they did as he promised Brexit.

"Now you're being silly"

the obvious rerort is

"well you started it"