Labour suspends Trevor Phillips because he identified who made up child grooming gangs

Oh well they can expel everyone for wrong think and stick with the tiny titan Little OJ and the rest of the misogyny gang and then wonder at the next election why they got less votes than the bloke dressed as a chicken promising free eggs for all.

On what basis can Labour forbid TP from quoting the contents of a letter sent to him? Talk about authoritarian. What have Labour got to hide if they feel their allegations are justified. If I was TP, I would publish and be damned. The Labour Party can expel him, but so what? They don't want someone with his inconvenient opinions anyway.

I find Trevor Phillips to always give a balanced, measured and thoughtful view on issues. What are Labour thinking?

Good. The sooner the labour party hurry themselves into oblivion the better.

(And I used to vote Labour.)

WTAF Labour.

It appears that nobody made this complaint, the Labour party spontaneously decided to investigate him. Labour have told him that he must not quote the allegations against him and if he needs support he should contact the CAB or Samaritans.

Phillips made his programme and wrote his pamphlet several years ago, which is a lifetime ago in terms of politics and the rapid moving political map of the last 4 years. Labour's move against Phillips is just pure spite, because he was vocal about not voting for Labour in the last election. Labour is looking everywhere but in the mirror for a scapegoat for their dismal performance.

Heard TP on R4 this morning. I am grateful he is on the side of GC women, because he sounded like the only grown up in the room compared to the interviewer who sounded desperate to trip him up.

The Muslim Council of Britain person on R4 was ridiculous. The notion that Muslims don't think they are different makes no sense. By definition, belonging to a group and following a religion that is not part of the prevailing culture/religion of the host country makes you different. Along with the rules about mingling of the sexes and dress codes. That doesn't make you any less human and it doesn't make you any less British or entitled to the protection of the law of the land. But you are different by your own design, and the minute you start using your differences to try to bend the law or avoid scrutiny, then you are open to justified criticism.

Labour keep very quiet on their self ID policies in Northern towns it's not something they use in their campaigns or advertising for the reason that Muslims are not in favour of it.

Can GC groups try to target such communities with information? For example, could Transgender Trend send their packs and book to local schools and groups. I would be happy to contribute to such a drive.

Alloutoffucks - The main reason girls were put at risk was because professionals like the police thought they were just "slags" rather than victims.

No. The professionals are to blame for their cowardly failure to investigate. The abusers are to blame — solely and fully — for the crimes they committed against those girls.

Funny how some posters are keen to say Rotherham etc "was the police's fault". Did the police groom the girls? It doesn't matter if the girls were the slaggiest slags or vestal virgins, they were under age girls who had been groomed by older men . Where the police failed was having the line that to pursue this would damage community relations. A crime is a crime.

Cwenthryth by sacrifice I mean they still ignore the issue for their own gains (votes).

TP said on LBC that (paraphrasing) this could be seen as an attack on the EHRC, despite him having left there 8 years ago. It’s a reasonable take.

@MidnightJasmine

What’s going on in Oldham?

CSE - a crime perpetuated mostly by males.

Different aspects including grooming gangs, consuming online images, campaigns for relaxing safeguarding and yes, a police force blind to its own institutional misogyny, are all relevant and all likely to be driven by different subcategories of male.

I think it's important we talk about all of these men.

Labour have completely lost my support. I will never vote for them again. I agree with pp that this is a knee jerk reaction to the anti Semitism fluff up so now they are acting like woke saviours.

I will not forget their campaign of repression of women. If you stand for the hurt feelings of rapists and men calling themselves women above protecting vulnerable women and girls you have no place in government as far as I'm concerned.

Why him, why now? We have members spouting the most awful and offensive sexist and racist things - and yes they carry on.

@xxyzz Seriously isn't it bleeding obvious why they have picked on Trevor Phillips now? He was the former head of the EHRC, which Labour are DESPARATE to attack, as it is due to report on massive anti-Semitism in Labour any day now. And they are about to be found hugely guilty. Corbyn's inner circle - particularly Formby, who is about to be found personally responsible for the worst excesses of Labour anti-Semitism, are searching for any stick to beat the EHRC with, and some of their more cultish, racist members will happily swallow that the investigation into Labour anti-Semitism is all part of an Islamophobic plot. Join the dots, people!

Yup, agree with this completely (I am Jewish and have been very involved in the battle against Labour antisemitism, fwiw).

" A proposed new definition of Islamophobia could be used as a “bully’s charter” by Muslims to silence critics and promote intolerant views, a former equalities chief has warned"

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/19/new-islamophobia-definition-could-bullys-charter-warns-former/amp/

any words from the candidates?

It's so weird contrasting this attempt to monster Phillips, who for as long as I can remember has always been well liked and respected by most people, with the "oh Jeremy Corbyn" bollocks from before the election. I'm not sure if they have no idea who the public does and doesn't like and trust, or if they do know and that's why they're trying to eliminate the competition.

(Within their own party. Why fight the Tories when you can destroy your own party from the inside?)

Woah MidnightJasmine maybe a bit of clarity about what you mean by Labour sacrificing young girls - because without detail that sounds a bit of an extreme position, like an accusation of burning them in a wicker man or something

I think the LP is a ‘victim of its own success’ in many ways, having attended a CLP meeting for the first time recently. The systems and organisation of the whole party is creaking under the massive weight of a rapidly inflated membership and quite simply cannot cope.

Could this be the death knell for the Labour Party? It really does seem to be disappearing right up its own arse. From the party we looked to for social justice, to this bunch of deluded, bigoted authoritarian zealots. Horrifying.

@alloutoffucks - the people responsible for the grooming and rape - were the grooming gangs and rapists - Yes the police were shit - Yes the council and by extension some local services turned a blind eye - All the above was acknowledged as a thorny issue because of Race - which was ignored - - the veteran wonderful Labour MP Anne Cryer - was called a racist when she raised the issue in keighley

Yes the police ignored the girls who they thought were slags. But we also need to understand what drove those grooming gangs.

Trevor Phillips? Really. The world has assuredly gone mad

The Labour Party are racist in my area as they still sacrifice young girls & some boys of mainly but not exclusively white backgrounds and then don't address the issue to maintain their vote.

It’s a political tragedy what they are doing to themselves

It is. I've never been a labour supporter but our democracy needs strong, sensible opposition holding government to account not 'eating itself'. (Well, IMO it needs to get rid of the distorting grip of FPTP but that's too unlikely to happen to be worth discussing)