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Nine of British Glamour's '30 feminist icons' are biological males

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jadefinch · 08/03/2020 11:34

Ranging from Munroe Bergdorf to Sadiq Khan.

British Glamour is a women's magazine.

And this is to celebrate International Women's Day.

twitter.com/GlamourMagUK/status/1236606594969997312?s=19

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BingBongSong · 08/03/2020 23:16

Thanks for that link StealthSquirrelNutkin. I've shared it on my FB, alongside Julie Bindel's Telegraph article, and had one "like" from someone who hasn't engaged previously. Hoping that some of my friends read it and start to think more about it. I gave up volunteering for our local IWD events a couple of years ago - I couldn't do it in good faith anymore.

Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 08/03/2020 23:01

radfemrebecca.com/womens-day-all-about-the-men/
This round up of the institutional capture that has overtaken the official IWD celebrations made me wonder if we shouldn't take a leaf out of the oppositions playbook, and grant ourselves a plethora of special days.

We could start by celebrating Adult human female day on 8th April, genderfree women's day on 8th May, XX chromosome holders day on 8th June, international large gamete producers day on 8th July, National Radical Feminist appreciation day on 8th August and an entire month dedicated to the biological female victims of biological male violence all through September.

We could demand that the police and NHS wear special lanyards in suffragette colours, and set up a few charities suck in massive grants that we could use to lobby politicians, draw up special guidelines for the judiciary and press, and have schools and businesses pay us to come in and educate them.

SapphireSeptember · 08/03/2020 22:33

Noticed JK Rowling wasn't on their list, I wonder why? Hmm

Goosefoot · 08/03/2020 21:31

Apart from the rest of it, why would Sadiq Khan be a feminist icon? If I wanted to pick out men that have done a lot for women or feminism in some way, I wouldn't even think of him.

janeskettle · 08/03/2020 21:24

This year's IWD was all about the blokes.
Shows yoy how quickly we're travelling backwards in terms of acknowledgement of women, and women's rights.

That's 9 feminist icons who were not acknowledged. I mean, British Glamour, who cares, but the principle...

IWD has been colonised by the oppressor class, imo. Not to mention the corporate class. It's just another sales opportunity.

DuLANGDuLANGDuLANG · 08/03/2020 21:19
Grin
aliasundercover · 08/03/2020 21:16

There's a great reply

Bergdorf can Fuckorf

zanahoria · 08/03/2020 15:40

Andy Murray is a decent guy, which is great, everyone likes a decent guy but feminist icon?

It think they do this just to troll the readers and stir up interest.

isabellerossignol · 08/03/2020 15:27

What does Munroe Bergdorf have that gets Munroe so much airtime, so much column space? I just don't get it. I don't understand why the people in charge are willing to overlook Munroe's aggression, dubious interaction with children on social media, and all round nastiness, and hold Munroe up as a hero. Munroe doesn't even pretend to be benign.

User182756 · 08/03/2020 15:17

One tweet among many replying to Glamour:

Nearly a third of these are men. Do you centre inspirational white people as icons during black history month?

This is ridiculous. Men can be feminists - fine! But International Women's Day should be about celebrating actual women!

definitelygc · 08/03/2020 13:23

Kind of agree Andy Murray supports women - he has been excellent at calling out sexism in tennis

Has he spoken out about transwomen in women's sports yet? For a long time everytime Martina spoke out about this I @'d him asking him when he was going to support her. I never got a response.

Andy Murray is an outspoken "feminist" when it gets him brownie points and totally absent when it means having to actually put his neck on the line. It's pathetic.

HorseWithNoLang · 08/03/2020 13:17

Glamour = dead classy = shite.

midgebabe · 08/03/2020 13:17

What about male mental health exactly?

How much should women bend over to because of male mental health? How much free access to women's bodies and spaces is needed to help those poor men? Men's mental health won't be improved by treating them like scared children who must never be denied anything they want.

Defenestratethecat · 08/03/2020 13:12

Kind of agree Andy Murray supports women - he has been excellent at calling out sexism in tennis. Whether he has a place on this list, not sure. Numbers 2 and 3? Nope. They appear to be getting their glamorous bottoms handed to them on twitter though, so not all bad.

mencken · 08/03/2020 13:07

2nd thread today expressing surprise that a magazine aimed at women prints stupid content.

it's aimed at women - the bar is low, insulting as it may be. Simple solution - don't buy these shitty publications.

flowery · 08/03/2020 13:07
DuLANGDuLANGDuLANG · 08/03/2020 13:05

LOL

Fuckwits

VortexofBloggery · 08/03/2020 13:03

McFeminism. Do yourselves a favour, watch the Simon De Beauvoir interview on another thread. IWD is a nonsense.

definitelygc · 08/03/2020 13:00

And here was Sadiq Khan's tweet for International Women's Day:

"We all have a part to play in the battle for gender equality. Together, as Londoners, we must ensure that ours is a city of opportunity and a place where people of all genders can fulfil their potential."

Spoken like a true men's rights activist

Fandoozle1 · 08/03/2020 12:27

Trying to remember when Glamour last had something relevant to say about women. They dont even know what one is.

AnyOldSpartabix · 08/03/2020 12:23

Glamour. The name says it all. It’s aimed at men pleasers.

StuckBetweenDarknessAndLight · 08/03/2020 12:12

And where is the support for the women who support men in their careers? Wives and mothers?
Oh no. No recognition at all.

DariaWalker · 08/03/2020 11:53

It is deliberate. It is done to oppress us further. The message to us is: you, women, are insignificant outside of the presence of men. You have no value except in relation to men.

Vogue magazine is a tool of patriarchy.

LambriniSocialist · 08/03/2020 11:53

This is the magazine who apparently couldn't find any actual woman in 2015 to give the award of 'Woman of the Year' to, so had to give it to a male who had 'become a woman' a few months before.

So I'm not surprised by this list TBH.

ahagwearsapointybonnet · 08/03/2020 11:52

Oh Glamour was one of the first things to open my eyes to all this - when they started having the columns by Juno Dawson. So I gave up on them long ago.

Interesting article from 2016 here: www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/voices/juno-dawson-glamour-magazine-terf-gender-identification-feminism-germaine-greer-a7403016.html%3famp

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