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assigned at birth - and form filling

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HDDD · 06/03/2020 15:54

I've just had to fill in a form and it asked if my gender matched the one I was assigned at birth. On a practical note, has anyone successfully managed to get an organisation to re-think the wording on this? If so, how? I'm all for inclusive wording and collecting of relevant data but this assigned at birth nonsense grates. This was in the UK, and a local authority standard form.

OP posts:
HDDD · 06/03/2020 16:09

Exact wording below
Male Female
Is your gender identity the same as the gender you were assigned at birth?
Yes No
There's a link in the footer to yourcounciljobs.co.uk/ (now redirecting) which suggests it's maybe a standard form they've downloaded and stuck their own logo on.

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HarrietThePi · 06/03/2020 16:07

Is your gender : male or female. Fine I can answer that and it's clear from the context that gender is being used in place of the word sex, but throw identifying and assigned into the mix and it's really not so straightforward. We know what they mean (as much as it's possible to understand something that doesn't make any sense) but I just don't believe that the majority of the population would.

popehilarious · 06/03/2020 16:05

In my experience it's lgbtq ppl in the org who request these changes to forms. They're trying to be inclusive but forget about people who may not have a gender.

HarrietThePi · 06/03/2020 16:05

Have not experienced this op. I would probably ask questions. What on earth is gender assigned at birth actually supposed to mean, what is identifying as a gender supposed to mean, and what is gender. Honestly if I didn't know about this stuff, if I was given a form like that I'd be pretty baffled by it. I think a lot of people would.

jadefinch · 06/03/2020 15:59

Have you got a screenshot / picture / link?

Which local authority?

I don't believe anyone who uses language like 'assigned gender at birth' believes the rubbish they're spouting. I saw a Labour councillor today who uses language like this all the time, reply to someone with 'he's a beaut' when they posted an image of their new-born son.

Similarly flowjobqueen assumed the gender of the bouncer who threw him out of the women's toilets despite calling for violence against people who assume other people's gender.