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Just tell me I didn’t want their stupid job anyway.

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Lordfrontpaw · 03/03/2020 19:55

So I applied for a job. All going well with the forms until I got to the ‘about you’ section

I was asked my sex and it was explained that HMRC only GIVES 2 OPTIONS

Then came - in roughly this order - am I trans? What is my gender, did I have school lunches (that would be back in the 70/80s), what did my dad do (Christ sake he died almost 20 years ago), what’s my religion, and a million other things (the very last one being did I consider myself disabled).

I answered ‘prefer not to say’ to all except the gender one where they thoughtfully had an option of a free text box.

I blew it didn’t I?

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Miriel · 03/03/2020 21:49

I think it'll be fine!

I applied for a job recently and the equal opportunities form was a Word document. I amended 'gender' to 'sex' so that I could tick female. I doubt anyone will notice.

I had to completely ignore the question 'is your gender identity the same as your gender assigned at birth?' because to me that's pretty much like asking a lifelong atheist 'is the church you currently attend the same as the one you were baptised in?' Neither 'yes' nor 'no' is correct.

LeftHandDown · 03/03/2020 21:41

I applied for a role recently and was sent the equalities form, first question was is your gender male, female, transwoman, transman, prefer not to say, I ticked prefer not to say and unsurprisingly I didn't hear anything back.

I was surprised to get the forms prior to an interview, but wondered if some companies are using the equalities forms to weed out candidates 'unsuitable' views.

TheYearOfTheDog · 03/03/2020 21:28

Civil Service wouldnt ask what your father did!

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Lordfrontpaw · 03/03/2020 20:54

It wasn’t a civil service job.

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Lordfrontpaw · 03/03/2020 20:53

If they’d asked about my mum (I was so people off by then) I would have said what she used to tell people when they asked her what she did for a living - ‘washes the elephants in the circus’

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JoJothesquirrel · 03/03/2020 20:49

The civil service has made a pledge to employ people that are reflective of the wider community. So people on free school meals, people who’s parents were not in professional jobs, care leavers etc etc. Part of that is monitoring who is applying for jobs to see if they are appealing to the right people. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong but that’s what it is.
Makes no odds for your application though.

Germainedestael · 03/03/2020 20:48

It’s very sexist to ask what your dad did. Did they ask about your mother too?

RHTawneyonabus · 03/03/2020 20:43

Those sound like standard civil service questions which are for HR monitoring an d not given to the recruiting manager. The free school meals / dad thing was a social mobility thing.

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Lordfrontpaw · 03/03/2020 20:35

I wish the option was ‘dont know’

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Strangerthantruth · 03/03/2020 20:27

Just watching Lionel Shriver and Douglas Murray talking about picking the prefer not to say option, the whole audience (huge) is laughing.
Nix the whole identity thing is his final word.

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Lordfrontpaw · 03/03/2020 20:22

Didn’t say female... Grin

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Wakaranaihito · 03/03/2020 20:03

Monitoring forms are completely anonymous. They are only collected so that organisations can monitor the diversity of their recruits and if, for example, only white, female catholics were applying for all the jobs they might think about how to pitch the job ad for a wider range.

They are collected and stored separately.

NavyBerry · 03/03/2020 20:01

What kind of job requires this info?

TheYearOfTheDog · 03/03/2020 20:00

I don't think they can hold that against you! So let me get this straight, you said Female, but the other stuff like what your dad did for a living, you had the balls to say ''prefer not to say''.

GulliBelle · 03/03/2020 20:00

I think the monitoring form will be separated from the application form. But do you really want to work there?

What did you put in the 'gender' bit?

Greenmarmalade · 03/03/2020 19:58

No, I can’t imagine it’ll make any difference.

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