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Poll finds nearly a third of Labour voters may vote for another party over its 'trans pledge'

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jadefinch · 02/03/2020 16:27

The survey, by a politics professor at Birkbeck University, looks at people who voted for left wing parties in the December general election.

It finds that about half of voters of the Greens and Lib Dems are opposed to the 'trans pledge', but the party worst hit by this is Labour with 27% of their 2019 voters saying they are considering voting for another party due to its pandering to trans activism. The vast majority also oppose the trans pledge.

Labour secured 10.2 million votes last year. This would equate to a loss of nearly 3 million voters. There's no evidence that Labour has generated any support from voters of other parties due to the trans pledge (the Tories secured 14 million votes at that election).

quillette.com/2020/02/27/how-the-trans-pledge-damaged-the-labour-party/

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wellbehavedwomen · 02/03/2020 17:46

They literally said they wanted to expel any women who questioned their rabid determination to strip us of our rights, from the party. And then they're shocked and astonished that we don't vote for them?

They don't understand this whole democracy lark at all, do they.

R0wantrees · 02/03/2020 17:43

the party worst hit by this is Labour with 27% of their 2019 voters saying they are considering voting for another party due to its pandering to trans activism. The vast majority also oppose the trans pledge.

18th October 2018 thread op:
"Yesterday on a thread condemning Stephen Whittle's use of predicted suicide, he joined and commented confidently:

In the end we will pull ourselves together and continue the campaigning – as we have always done. We know we have Labour behind this one, so will simply do our best to get them elected. As I tell the community “we have always lost more battles than we have won, but we only ever need to win the big one”.

I hope that clarifies matters.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3397010-Guardian-article-on-MPs-concern-with-GRA?msgid=81891984#81891984

Last night at Pink News party, Jeremy Corbyn apparently confirmed Whittle's belief:
'PinkNews Awards 2018: Jeremy Corbyn vows support for transgender reforms'
by Nick Duffy
(extract)
"Speaking about transgender rights, he said: “We must speak up for the trans community, who today face shocking attacks in the media—just as lesbian and gay people did in the 1980s—as well as now online, which can be a wonderful place but also a horrendous place where attacks take place.

“Labour supports reform of the Gender Recognition Act and Equality Act to allow for self-declaration. The deadline for Government’s consultation is on Friday.

“Trans people must be able to live full, healthy, and happy lives—being the person they want to be. Labour will stand up for their right to do so.”
www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/10/17/jeremy-corbyn-pinknews-awards-2018/

Yesterday too, the Labour Party promoted Stonewall's guidance for the GRA:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3397280-Labour-party-promoting-Stonewall

threads:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3390910-Can-we-talk-about-Pink-News-Collecting-examples-of-their-propaganda

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3398127-Stephen-Whittle-influential-TRA-asserts-We-know-we-have-Labour-behind-this-one-so-will-simply-do-our-best-to-get-them-elected-Corbyn-seems-to-confirm-this-at-Pink-News

RuffleCrow · 02/03/2020 17:38

This is what i've been saying for ages. They can't do it without us! Adult Human Females are 51% of the population. Patronise, deride and ignore us at your own peril.

MaMaLa321 · 02/03/2020 17:34

The leadership and deputy leadership candidates have to get through a square shaped hole to get voted in by the CLP's then through a round shaped hole to get voted in by the electorate. Hence Starmer being so vague (ish -he did sign the 'other' LGBT pledge.
It's interesting to watch, except when I remember that they should be leading an effective opposition and possibly running the country. The CLP in my area has supported Dawn Butler. Dawn Butler! Apparently she's inspirational.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 02/03/2020 17:18

I think the true believers will find that survey easy to dismiss. (Small sample, reported in right wing publication, methodology involved exposure to an article they will consider transphobic.)

Very interesting though.

Butterymuffin · 02/03/2020 17:05

Colour me unsurprised. Whatever your position on this, it's exactly the kind of wrangling that puts off anyone with little or no interest in politics. Plus it ignores the broad swathe of 'average' women voters. In short, the very opposite of an election-winning stance.

BentNeckLady · 02/03/2020 17:04

Ha

Ha

Ha

Michelleoftheresistance · 02/03/2020 17:02

And Labour will sniff, put its nose in the air and say it doesn't want those dirty votes anyway.

Whatever. Labour are dead in the water, they're choosing to be a pressure group, not a political party. Their choice.

Let's hope a new left party with a brain comes from the ashes and provides an alternative to endless conservative governments chosen not because they're wanted, but because they're the only sane option.

WrathofFaeKlopp · 02/03/2020 16:49

Only a third?

stillathing · 02/03/2020 16:49

Socialists for belief in material reality shocker!

FloralBunting · 02/03/2020 16:46

No.

Shit.

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 02/03/2020 16:42

Thank you for linking - I shall read later.

I hope the bloody SNP is listening Angry

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