What do you think about the rainbow flag?

sapphos

Its working on our local building site...proper muddy

I think political lesbians are great btw, I wish there were more of them.

Same, though I have seen them get critiqued in discussions on sex and gender identity as "illegitimate".

I'd much prefer to see a rainbow flag on a digger (not seen that one before) as you say Sapphos that'd definitely be an improvement to wolf whistle type behaviour

The two are not mutually exclusive.

Probably done for Instagram Rufus 🏳️‍🌈

I imagine a novelty rainbow digger would get a few likes. It's all harmless fun isn't it.

Oh thats alright sapphos

Couldn’t figure out if id said something wrong

The rainbow was actually on the digger...so it looked like it had been made that way

Oh RufustheLanglovingreindeer I agree and I wasn't having a pop at you.

I wish we were in a place where tolerance and acceptance of LGBT people was the default but unfortunately we're not there yet.

kittens

I tried keeping away

But i spent most of my time trying to get people to be nice and it really wasn’t working...even the already nice posters were getting pissed off with me

You don't think there's often a whiff of the "only political lesbians would object to what's happening, as they are nasty trans-exclusionary radical feminists"

This post comes arias as though you think the 'Get the L Out' women are political lesbians. They are very clear their agenda is about same sex attraction so the exact opposite of political lesbians. Glad we've cleared that up.

I think political lesbians are great btw, I wish there were more of them.

sapphos

I thought it was pretty...ive no problem with rainbows over everything

I was posting in reply to your ‘gay bars’ comment

Its all over the place and I’m stuggling to see how tolerance is ‘progressive’ and ‘novel’

Be a much better place if people were tolerant all the time

Im reading your post as having some sort of pop at me, apologies if thats not the case

I'd much prefer to see a rainbow flag on a digger (not seen that one before) as you say Sapphos that'd definitely be an improvement to wolf whistle type behaviour

Yes, I've read the other posts.

Are you saying the builders, engineers, architects, contractors can’t be gay? Because sites are frequented by these...

I read one Brexit thread. One was enough! Even the people whose basic position I agreed with were annoying me.

RufustheLanglovingreindeer a rainbow flag on a digger you say? How novel.

I imagine the construction industry is full of toxic masculinity. How progressive that the owner of that digger is showing tolerance of LGBT+ folk.

Surely a rainbow clad digger is a vast improvement on the usual wolf whistling?

Are we just shouting out random vehicles now

Do you not read others peoples posts?

I dont sometimes...there were a few Posters on the brexit board and they are probably fantastic conversationists in real life but fuck me their posts were boring. I used to lose the will to live

I was talking about political lesbians to my 16 and 18 year olds...and ive no idea why now

Seems a fairly random conversation for me to start

Are we just shouting out random vehicles now?
Cool.
TRACTORS

DIGGERS

Oh dear ReinstateLangCleg I think you should Google political lesbianism. You clearly don't know what it is.

I did just now to double-check!

Where have I have misunderstood?

Political lesbianism is associated with radical/second wave feminism, and says that lesbianism is essentially a choice, and one that feminists ought to make. This is why political lesbians are sometimes not seen as "real" lesbians, and it forms part of the "nature versus nurture" debates about sexual orientation. At this point, I'm not sure I'd entirely agree with the idea of same-sex attraction/sexual orientation being socially constructed or something one can choose, though I'm increasingly sympathetic to radical feminist analyses when it comes to women's rights.

Some of the prominent feminists in the debates about gender identity and sex include Sheila Jeffreys and Julie Bindel, who I think are both on the record as political lesbians. I just feel like it gets brought into these discussions almost as a distraction and used as a "gotcha."

Parliament
CPS
NHS trusts
Supermarkets
Councils

Ah so pointing out men are not lesbians is anti trans is it?

Police cars
Corporate logos
Primary schools
School zebra crossings
M&S sandwiches
Lanyards aplenty
Bunting up Tottenham Court Rd for moths last summer
Rainbow balloons all along Debenhams last summer
In fact most of Oxford st last Pride season (summer to start of term)
Flying on the top of Senate House
Flying on the top of the nurses building on Cavendish Sq
...

considering as they are mainly hung outside gay bars

No theyre not

They are all over the show...i drove past a digger about an hour ago all rainbowed up (it was awfully pretty)

But thats more the corporate takeover of the flag and what its supposed to represent

ReinstateLangCleg are you actually aware of the Pride protests? They were unapologetically done with an anti trans agenda.

Some media coverage:

[[https://happiful.com/protestors-vile-stunt-did-not-stop-the-joy-and-love-at-london-pride-2018/
happiful.com/protestors-vile-stunt-did-not-stop-the-joy-and-love-at-london-pride-2018/]]

[[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-44757403
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-44757403]]

Lesbians activists with an anti trans agenda are obviously attacking part of the LGBT community.

Please may I ask you to expand on this point, and ideally back it up with some evidence.