Morgane Oger officially succeeds in getting a rape relief centre defunded

I’m not having this discussion with you Eresh.

No, I'm sure you aren't. Was just curious!

Bear in mind that IIRC this is the last female-only rape crisis centre left in Vancouver. If males who identify as trans require support, they have more options than female survivors who absolutely need a female-only space.

Yes, I think I read somewhere there are 12 other centres. Surprising that Kimberly couldn't have volunteered at one of them, really, isn't it?

it supports extremely vulnerable women and girls.

And Oger calls it 'supremacist'?

Thanks for the link up thread. It took me 30s to set up a monthly donation.

This is where the unthinking mantra of "be kind" leads to. Kindness is great but I think it should be directed towards abused women, not the kind of people who will wield it like an open access pass to those women

Or indeed wield it like an axe in the hands of a psychopath. Where is there ever kindness towards females? 'Be kind' means 'serve'.

Bear in mind that IIRC this is the last female-only rape crisis centre left in Vancouver. If males who identify as trans require support, they have more options than female survivors who absolutely need a female-only space. Bec Wonders, who knows the centre and its work, said it supports extremely vulnerable women and girls.

I do wonder if that might be because in Vancouver, if you absolutely need to access help but you cannot cope with being re-traumatised in a mixed-sex space, this is the only place left to go.

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Validation for their identity is more important to them than actually supporting women who have been raped. That is disgraceful.

This is where the unthinking mantra of "be kind" leads to. Kindness is great but I think it should be directed towards abused women, not the kind of people who will wield it like an open access pass to those women

Very well said.

I've sent an email to the council to express my disgust at their decision

I am writing to let you know how horrified and disgusted I am at the recent news that the council has voted to withdraw further funding from Vancouver Rape Relief.

Not content with standing by as this much needed safe space for vulnerable women escaping abuse was relentlessly targeted by transactivists, you further seek to abuse those already traumatized by removing an important lifeline.

In your abject desperation to prove how inclusive you are, you have further proved how little you care for women. And by women, I mean those born female. You should be thoroughly ashamed and embarrassed by the rank misogyny you continue to display, and which has now been laid bare for the whole world to see.

If this is how you treat rape survivors and other victims of brutality, I can't imagine why any woman would choose to visit your city. You need to seriously reflect on why you've allowed an aggressive minority to dictate your morals. Shame on you!

You can do the same here

vancouver.ca/your-government/contact-council.aspx

Ogre. How I always hear it and how I always think of it. Never was someone more aptly named.

Not doing well in the winning hearts and minds and the whole love, inclusivity and intersectionality really, old Oger. As if all that is nothing more than a bit of lipservice to distract people while bashing women and stripping them of their rights for personal gain.

Personally, I'd rather share a shelter with a natal man than a trans woman. At least the natal man isn't pretending to be someone they're not and forcing me to play along.

Consider Ogre (yes, I know) lying on his deathbed thinking back about his life. His ‘greatest’ achievement will have been getting funding to a rape relief centre cut.

I wonder if at that point he’ll think “that was a life well lived”?

I’m not having this discussion with you Eresh.

Oger is also very nasty about trans widows.

I’m not surprised, Tinsel. Those agriculturalists of the Southern Hemisphere have a lot to say about Oger’s own legal situation vis a vis the former Mrs Oger. Hope she’s absolutely thriving on her own now.

Also a local First Nation group came up in the discussion, iirc...

I will be donating again.
Ogre is someone you really wouldn't want to meet when walking home alone. A disgusting facsimile of a human being.

They were very pally with Yaniv. Ugh.

This individual spends their life campaigning against raped women. I can't imagine the hopeless and wanton state of their psyche.

Unfortunately for them, the women of the UK are making significant progress in exposing the ideology fault lines. The days of Oger's reign are numbered.

If only Oger had spent their time and energy fighting for third spaces for TW.

Re Canadian law - I am not at all sure, now! Somebody on twitter said VRR legitimately & lawfully exclude people who are not female-bodied from their services and this was tested in court

I guess it's similar to here in UK. A service provider can provide single sex provision (excluding all males, whatever their legal sex) but funding streams (and I think this is often the case with LA funding) might have criteria which means they only fund 'inclusive' provision. Many UK DV orgs provide services that aren't exclusively female alongside female provision, which would mean meeting the criteria at an organisational level, whereas VRR only offer services to women.

What an absolutely loathsome individual that person is.

Thanks for the reminder that I need to donate to Vancouver Rape relief again. Good for them for standing strong despite repeated attempts by pervert men with low morals to try get in through the door and access vulnerable women.

There are many ways in which male behaviour enacts abuse and hatred of women.

Is this a red line for you, Field? I thought you thought TWAW?

Oger is also very nasty about trans widows.

Canada is an absolute fucking shit-show of wokery. An absolute embarrassment

Couldn't have phrased it better. It seems to be the epicentre of all this fucking shit

There are many ways in which male behaviour enacts abuse and hatred of women.

Thanks for sharing. I've set up a monthly donation to help VRR carry on their work.