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Drag Queen Story Hour in Scottish Primary School

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rogdmum · 23/02/2020 09:22

Well, not branded as story hour, but the drag queen is reading a story to primary school children... Brought in by an MP (Mhairi Black)

“Thank you to Flow and @MhairiBlack for sharing their experiences with us today. It was really important to hear about Section 28 and the negative effect it had. Thankfully now we teach #LGBTEducation proudly at @Glencoats_PS #LGBTQProud @LGBTYS @LGBTHistoryScot”

twitter.com/m_watsonht/status/1230607443455025157?s=21

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Tombakersscarf · 25/02/2020 09:53

Oooh, I wasn't brave enough to phone but I did get a text read out Smile

LexMitior · 25/02/2020 09:51

@Grafittiqueen - the SNP are pretty regressive when it comes to women and children. It comes down to their leadership and some social attitudes. It will be very interesting to see Salmond go to trial this year - but obviously if the case is true then there will have been a lot of others who will have known about his behaviour towards women.

The SNP aren’t a progressive or liberal party. They are close minded in attempting to dress themselves in politically correct policies (which they don’t think about in any real depth). Mhari Black is a leading example of how they are.

NeurotrashWarrior · 25/02/2020 09:45

Ah ok, I didn't know about that view. Thanks for the article.

Essentially though, it would have been far better if for example, a rugby personality who is gay had visited to talk about their experiences and their successes.

DQs being presented as role models in the LGB community actually feeds into the negative stereotypes around being a gay man, or a boy who likes 'stereotypically girl things' when young.

Langbannedforsafeguardingkids · 25/02/2020 09:40

Yes, everyone defended Jimmy Savile and took to the radio to support him too. Look at how the BBC covered up for him for years. Just because there's a mass delusion doesn't mean something is right or that safeguarding concerns should be minimised.

Part of the whole point of safeguarding is that any concern should be treated with respect and taken seriously - even if it's absolutely wrong. That is what good safeguarding looks like.

I hope the parents of the kids whose faces have been plastered all over an X rated social media feed take legal action.

Lordfrontpaw · 25/02/2020 09:38

have they ever offered to punch a male?

the weans are running the nursery

Tombakersscarf · 25/02/2020 09:36

I'm listening to this on radio scotland just now - can't say the case against is coming across too strongly with the callers

OvaHere · 25/02/2020 09:28

Re Pantomime Dames

I have a young relative who has been involved in panto's from a very young age via his stage school (dancing).

They take safeguarding very seriously. Everyone is DBS checked and all under 16's have to be chaperoned backstage with a strict ratio of chaperones to kids. If for some reason that ratio can't be met then the kids can't be there and rehearsals/shows cannot go ahead.

Not quite the same scenario but I just wanted to point out that some places do take safeguarding very seriously.

Langbannedforsafeguardingkids · 25/02/2020 09:21

I'm sick of the "it's just like widow twankie" and pantomime dame comments.

No - this is the most transparent attempt at minimising the grooming of kids - they'd have invited a pantomime dame if they wanted a pantomime dame i.e. a male actor dressed up as a parody of a woman. I wouldn't be that keen on that as it reinforces sexist stereotypes but it wouldn't be the same as a sexualised drag queen.

Do we think at a gay bar if they rolled out a pantomime dame when they'd promised a drag queen, everyone would just say 'oh, it's just the same'. No they wouldn't.

Basically anyone who says 'it's just like a pantomime dame' should be asked - well why didn't they get the local pantomime dame in then? And be viewed extremely suspiciously in terms of how they want to erode kids boundaries.

Grafittiqueen · 25/02/2020 09:16

Mhairi Black has always had dubious judgement. Remember her saying she wanted to nut no voters? The "Kit Kat" she shoved up her nose in parliament? She's been promoted well beyond her level, anyone with a yellow rosette would have won the elections she did because of the way politics is in Scotland at the moment.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 25/02/2020 09:15

And that's why I don't share the affection for Courtney Act. The tone may be more polite but the "this is the only acceptable opinion and you will be made to adopt it" underlying perspective is the same.

OvaHere · 25/02/2020 09:10

Neurotrash

I think Willam Belli is the more clued up drag queen - which I think is a fairly low bar in this line of work. Grin

He was accused of being transphobic (by Courtney) a few years back for trying to basically assert gay men's autonomy and rights to same sex attraction, probably not in the most tasteful way but he isn't really known for being polite.

Of course it broke out into a big row and Willam was forced to publicly grovel and submit to reeducation.

I reckon he knows what's up though.

www.intomore.com/culture/william-attempts-to-apologize-for-transphobic-comments-in-new-video

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 25/02/2020 08:55

Interesting how it's always female people our mate Flow wants to punch.

ThinEndoftheWedge · 25/02/2020 08:54

@SunsetBeetch

Sorry - cold thumbs!

ThinEndoftheWedge · 25/02/2020 08:53

Subsetbeach

Jokes about hitting a little girl in the face as well as joking about hitting a female Tory voter... might be a pattern here...

Abitofanexpert · 25/02/2020 08:39

@definitelygc and so many other PPs, yes I completely agree with everything you've said. I'm saddened and frightened by the place Scotland is becoming, all in the name of being progressive and inclusive, without the understanding that it is exactly the opposite.

Lordfrontpaw · 25/02/2020 08:01

I saw a photo of a drag queen story time act where the kids were definitely given more of a lesson that anyone expected.

Miniskirt? You’ve really got to wear knickers luv. And at kids eye level too 🤢

SunsetBeetch · 25/02/2020 08:00

What a shitshow. Wow.

Tombakersscarf · 25/02/2020 07:58

absolutepowercorrupts especially when my post was far from clear Grin
It's a bit like an AIBU thread in the public sometimes - news report "drag queen in school" and the public go "oi that's terrible!". News report saying "council apologised for dq in school" and the public go "it's just like widow twankie you dinosaur". Contrariness in action

Lordfrontpaw · 25/02/2020 07:56

They are - what we used to call - a wee nyaff.

EchidnasPhone · 25/02/2020 07:56

For Women Scot Marianne speaking on radio Scotland now and also being discussed later on Call Kaye

definitelygc · 25/02/2020 07:42

I went to bed last night feeling incredibly depressed about this story and the reason is not because of the safeguarding issue (which is obviously awful) but because of the misogyny. As PP said - the misogyny absolutely drips off this individual. To participate in the most vulgar parody of womanhood and claim to be "living as a woman". To barge into women's toilets and have other women kicked out for protesting. To tweet about punching women in the face. And instead of eye rolls and tutting, what we see is people falling over themselves to celebrate someone like this. We have a PC woke brigade who will castigate someone for the most minor infractions and yet misogyny is given absolute free reign. Where did we go so wrong?

SunsetBeetch · 25/02/2020 07:40

Oh Flowjob also jokes about punching a child in the face.

Drag Queen Story Hour in Scottish Primary School
TheProdigalKittensReturn · 25/02/2020 07:32

Since I entirely missed their rise to power due to being abroad I still don't quite understand how that happened.

jadefinch · 25/02/2020 07:31

I see it's now emerged that Glencoats recently employed a paedophile as a teacher - and this was both an error by the school and Renfrewshire Council.

And that's on top of LGBTYS having a child rapist as its CEO.

At every level: school, organisation school works with, local authority and local MP, there seems to be a contentment with welcoming child abuse if they get a rainbow star.

If I had a child at that school is be seriously considering taking them out.

Lordfrontpaw · 25/02/2020 07:25

How old is she? I suppose she was feted as the ‘whiz kid MP’ who was going to change the world. All she seems to care about is lgbetc. Has she ever apologised for any of her immature behaviour?

She has some unpleasant friends. I see the act is drying victim to STV who have forgotten their name, the ta t they posted photos of the kids on their SM account, the harassment of women on SM, calling women ‘hen’ (which Marie goes crazy if you call her), gloating of the woman who was kicked out of a nightclub in winter without a coat for not wanting a man in the ladies, saying they wanted to punch a child and a Tory voter in SM... awwww the wean...

The SNP was - when I was a kid - the party if they loons. As kids we used to jeer the party car that used to drive around playing their irritating jingle and wouldn’t take the stickers they tried to hand out.

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