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Drag Queen Story Hour in Scottish Primary School

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rogdmum · 23/02/2020 09:22

Well, not branded as story hour, but the drag queen is reading a story to primary school children... Brought in by an MP (Mhairi Black)

“Thank you to Flow and @MhairiBlack for sharing their experiences with us today. It was really important to hear about Section 28 and the negative effect it had. Thankfully now we teach #LGBTEducation proudly at @Glencoats_PS #LGBTQProud @LGBTYS @LGBTHistoryScot”

twitter.com/m_watsonht/status/1230607443455025157?s=21

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McPeaked · 25/02/2020 13:54

Listening to Jeremy Vine...

This is a disaster

rogdmum · 25/02/2020 13:54

What an utterly bizarre debate.

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Newuser123123 · 25/02/2020 13:53

Can we campaign for the Pet Shop Boys to visit schools instead?

Newuser123123 · 25/02/2020 13:52

Jesus will sort it

Newuser123123 · 25/02/2020 13:51

Odd debate on Jeremy Vine followed by strategically placed Pet Shop Boys.

TorkTorkBam · 25/02/2020 13:43

When a person is invited into schools or libraries the children will take the person as a role model. They are likely to trust the person if met outside.

Holding up adult entertainers as good role models for children is not appropriate.

It smacks of homophobia, of mocking gay people, not of inclusivity.

Small children are already inclusive of people playing dress up.

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 25/02/2020 13:25

Hertfordshire Council is running a drag queen story time for children aged 3 to 11

WHY THE FUCK IS THIS A THING????

I know I’m repeating an earlier post but when will we see “Burlesque Story Time”?

Why the fucking fucking fuck are these bodies being able to get away with the conflation of LGBTQ+ awareness with adult entertainment?

It insults and compromises more than it includes. It benefits nobody and IMVHO makes a mockery of introducing the concepts of inclusivity and understanding of “difference”.

Fucks sakes.

bellinisurge · 25/02/2020 13:25

What would they do if any of the teacher's had that in their social media profile?
There is your private life and there is your jokey public declaration as to your sexual practices intended for adults only. Spoiler alert: kids can access the internet too.

jadefinch · 25/02/2020 13:17

This is the response from the council to concerns

Drag Queen Story Hour in Scottish Primary School
jadefinch · 25/02/2020 13:17

Hertfordshire Council is running a drag queen story time for children aged 3 to 11. The performer is Ruby Violet. If you Google Ruby, one of the first results is their profile, in which they're described as a 'girl with plenty of spunk (mainly on her face)'

Languishingfemale · 25/02/2020 13:14

Underneath the report in the Times about the drag queen is this article headlined Surge in Scots seeking help for fixation with child sex images
Join the dots people

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AbsintheFriends · 25/02/2020 13:12

Predictably, it's getting the shortest 'that's all we've got time for' slot.

(I've got to go out so my blood pressure is safe.)

HolyCheesePlant · 25/02/2020 13:07

It hasn't been on yet.

Drag Queen Story Hour in Scottish Primary School
HolyCheesePlant · 25/02/2020 13:06

*Contact...!

HolyCheesePlant · 25/02/2020 13:06

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006wr3p/contact

JV constancy details if anyone fancies it?

I'm looking after chicken pox ridden kids and would get interrupted!

NeurotrashWarrior · 25/02/2020 12:58

The woman said that these days it would be totally unacceptable for males to wander into changing rooms and watch girls getting dressed, which male teachers used to do. IRONY KLAXON.

And then some!!!!

NeurotrashWarrior · 25/02/2020 12:45

Very interesting littlbrowndog. Thanks for the link.

AbsintheFriends · 25/02/2020 12:42

I just caught a bit of the last discussion about Harvey Weinstein, where a woman called in and talked about the lack of safeguarding in schools back in the day when today's 40+ year olds were growing up. JV being all earnest concern about how shameful it was that kids were left so vulnerable. (The woman said that these days it would be totally unacceptable for males to wander into changing rooms and watch girls getting dressed, which male teachers used to do. IRONY KLAXON.)

I bloody hope JV can hold that thought about safeguarding for the next hour or so. I imagine it will get shoved out through a woke hole in his brain as soon as the magic words 'drag queen' 'inclusivity' and 'diversity' are spoken though.

littlbrowndog · 25/02/2020 12:33

Full report here
www.iicsa.org.uk/publications/investigation/westminster

BertBox · 25/02/2020 12:32

I hope he has some sensible callers phone in - he's just said "I don't see anything wrong with it"...

littlbrowndog · 25/02/2020 12:32

From report published today SNP take note

Safeguarding policies

The Inquiry received disclosure of current safeguarding policies from political parties, from a large number of government departments and agencies, and from the Palace of Westminster. We appointed an expert, Professor June Thoburn, to examine the adequacy of these. From her work, it is clear that, overall, Westminster institutions have improved their approach to safeguarding in recent years.

However, at the time of the hearing in this investigation, the evidence was that certain political parties had no specific safeguarding and child protection policies at all. It is unacceptable that any political party in England and Wales operates without suitable safeguarding and child protection policies and procedures.

We also heard evidence, notably from the Green Party and the Labour Party, which indicated that there are major gaps in the practical knowledge of even senior people about basic safeguarding. Some of these people considered themselves sufficiently qualified to judge whether abuse is serious enough to be reported to the authorities, even in the Labour Party’s case, where it is publicly committed to the policy of mandatory reporting.

The Inquiry recommends that all political parties registered with the Electoral Commission in England and Wales should ensure that they have a comprehensive safeguarding policy and procedures that accompany them. Further, that the Electoral Commission should monitor and oversee compliance with this recommendation. These recommendations are made in order to ensure that government departments and political parties have clear, up-to-date, and transparent policies and procedures for the handling of allegations of child sexual abuse.

LizzieSiddal · 25/02/2020 11:46

Jeremy Vine is going to talk about this on his R2 show.

I’d love to ask him if he would be allowed to have a pre watershed Radio show, if his twitter feed had pictures of him “interacting” with a dildo.

fascinated · 25/02/2020 10:36

Sorry for multiple postings — I know this is probably very obvious to all you experienced feminists , but I just had to try and articulate my thoughts! What to do about it all...? It seems such a trap...

fascinated · 25/02/2020 10:35

I have observed on a few occasions how effeminate males come to dominate (in a passive aggressive way, of course..certainly, they become the centre of attention) in female groups they gain access to.. eg a boy at our school was very effeminate, possibly gay, who knows but in those days it wasn’t trendy to be gay and would hang around with us, and was somehow deferred to... more recently watching a stage show in my child‘s drama group — there was a boy in the early teen group that reminded me of my classmate, and he had been given very much the leading role, lots of speaking (it was slightly improvised) and the deferential body language was very telling.

I think #bekind is just so frustrating... so simplistic and will just preach to the converted. Those who are already kind will naturally feel even more obliged to erode their boundaries, and the really cruel ones won’t care at all.

fascinated · 25/02/2020 10:28

I’ve posted before about misogyny in Scottish society. I think there is also still a lot of homophobia, especially against male gays... my sense is that this leads to an enhanced degree of sympathy for effeminate men among women and non—homophobic men — but especially among women, many of whom like the idea of being seen as a strong woman who can take care of herself, and by extension, others such as these gay men. This desire to be seen as strong I think is exploited by this current movement to create a victim/protector dynamic. Such women put their needs last.