Drag Queen Story Hour in Scottish Primary School

I think focusing on Flow Job's various flaws is unnecessary. Just being a drag queen with an adult Twitter/instagram and having a name which is a pun on a sexual act is enough.

I don't expect Flow Job to realise they are suitable as a role model for primary aged children, that's the job of the teachers. I would have thought an MP might have an awareness of appropriateness as well, but apparently not.

Don't cry 'meanies' when you have: threatened to punch a woman, threatened to punch a child (and pinch her bacon sarnie), gloated over a woman being thrown out of a nightclub in the middle of winter without a coat, called a woman 'hen' (even Blind Marie gets that one). Not to mention the photos (and I don't just mean the ones of other peoples children on your SM feed)... dear oh dear.

The photos of children from the school, with their faces unobscured, on the social media feed is a MASSIVE issue. I assume the only reason there isn't a huge shitstorm about it is because so few people understand what safeguarding involves.

Naivety? Well, it was a literacy class I suppose. Far more eloquent than their usual tweets (and no punching threats).

Oh, and rule No. 1 of the victim game:

Don't cry 'meanies' when you have: threatened to punch a woman, threatened to punch a child (and pinch her bacon sarnie), gloated over a woman being thrown out of a nightclub in the middle of winter without a coat, called a woman 'hen' (even Blind Marie gets that one). Not to mention the photos (and I don't just mean the ones of other peoples children on your SM feed)... dear oh dear.

"Who would have thought I would of got so much abuse...."

What is wrong with this statement, Year 5?

I could do 'foul mouth when extremely airieted ranty time' for the weans.

"So why not have prostitute story time or druggy rhyme time? "

Flow Job has also posted about their heroin habit on Twitter.

So two birds with one stone there.

This one certainly loves children and literacy:

As someone on twitter said - how nice that these young men have suddenly discovered their lust for education and literacy in small children (without being having any formal training in early years education). And as someone else said 'if I turned up at school dressed like that an wanted to read to the kids I'd be carted away'

Adult entertainers can also be children's entertainers too.

How did you come to that conclusion? You're ok with adult-oriented entertainment being brought into a primary school? Why? Adult entertainers are for adults. Bringing anything that is adult-oriented and sexual into a child's environment is not serving the child's needs. It's all about validating the adult. Children shouldn't be used to validate adults' feelings.

As someone said upthread, how does it validate young LGBT identities to bring someone named 'FlowJob' into the school to camp it up in a skimpy, tight dress with sequins? For any young gay male, that would surely make homophobic bullying worse because it plays into the worst stereotypes about gay men.

The vast majority of gay men & women are just ordinary people going about their daily lives whose sexuality is not the total focus of their existence. Those are the kind of role models children need - gay MPs, teachers, accountants, engineers, writers etc - not someone whose entire existence seems focused on sex and kink and clubbing, like this drag queen character

Jeremy Vine is weirdly uninformed - it allows him to play the part of someone who is genial but a bit thick. Sort of Hail Fellow Well Met meets Tim Nice But Dim. I wonder if it’s not actually role play.

Oh FFS Jade! Have all authorities taken leave of their senses?

I despair.

I would hook out the photo of the drag queen-the mini skirt-the low kiddie chair-the forgotten underpants (haven’t we all forgotten our knickers, gals?) and the kiddy eye-level penis show. Whoops!

Good grief Devlesko I hope you're not allowed anywhere near safeguarding training.

I used to do story sessions at our library when DD was tiny. Show of hands for who would have been coolio with me (a stranger) playing with your child in such a wacky way ...

They aren’t pretty and fabulous enough maybe?

But since this person says they are a ‘she’ (according to some accounts) then it ain’t drag is it?

as a bisexual woman, I am particularly offended by this recent craze that drag queens are the only way to 'educate' young children about people who are not heterosexual.

Indeed. I wonder why there isn't a vogue for inviting butch lesbians into school? They would be far better role models.

Devlesko still hasn't explained the purpose of drag queens in primary schools nor why drag queens are used as the only representation of the LGBT demographic in the community. (As a bisexual woman, I am particularly offended by this recent craze that drag queens are the only way to 'educate' young children about people who are not heterosexual.)

Considering there has not been any intelligent reasoning provided for why drag queens in particular should be showcased to children, it is clear that publicly funded institutions such as schools and libraries should not be hosting them at all.

The onus should not be on individual parents having to withdraw their children from school and library events, but rather such events should not be allowed at all as part of any educational curriculum - there is no purpose nor benefit to them.

Parents are free to use their own money and free time to take their own children to any 'child-friendly' drag queen events that might be taking place elsewhere if they are desperate to do so.

So why not have prostitute story time or druggy rhyme time? The Alf Garnet playtime or Cooking with Hannibal Lecter?

I’m sure they will all bring their U rarer material to the kiddies winks.

@polarisation 😂😂

If it isn't something you want your kids to see, you can take them out for the day.

The parents weren't told. So they didn't have this option.

Doesn't look like the Local Authority was told either. They have apologised.

John Swinney the Education Secretary has also apologised.

Waiting for Mhairi Black's apology.

In this case the parents didn't know ahead of time so didn't have the opportunity to take their kids out.

But saying this is ok and no different to panto dames is the same as saying a ballet dancer is an equally appropriate person to have in school as a stripper. Just obvious rubbish.

Yes exactly

@littlbrowndog this is my primary objection to it.

It goes against all that people have fought so hard to change over the years.

We've spent decades saying that homosexuals are not any more sex obcessed than straights, and we're tired of it being used as our defining characteristic. Then these hypersexualized versions of women portrayed by men are being used to "condition" kids as to who we are.

No, still don't get it tbh.
They won't be doing adult programmes in front of children, it will be age appropriate.
If it isn't something you want your kids to see, you can take them out for the day.
I didn't like the way sex ed was going in schools and didn't think it was age appropriate for our culture, so they didn't have the class.
We taught them ourselves in an age appropriate way.
If I looked at this Drag Queen and didn't like it, then my kids wouldn't be watching it and at home for the day.