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Drag Queen Story Hour in Scottish Primary School

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rogdmum · 23/02/2020 09:22

Well, not branded as story hour, but the drag queen is reading a story to primary school children... Brought in by an MP (Mhairi Black)

“Thank you to Flow and @MhairiBlack for sharing their experiences with us today. It was really important to hear about Section 28 and the negative effect it had. Thankfully now we teach #LGBTEducation proudly at @Glencoats_PS #LGBTQProud @LGBTYS @LGBTHistoryScot”

twitter.com/m_watsonht/status/1230607443455025157?s=21

[Edited by MNHQ to remove image at OP's request]

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Lordfrontpaw · 23/02/2020 18:09

DS would have had a bloody stroke - he really hated people dressing up and pretending to be someone else. Actors saying they were playing a part, fine, but someone saying ‘I am xyz’ and he would get really cross and tell them off (for lying I suppose).

You’re not a banana! (outside a cafe)
You’re not Mary Anning! (natural history museum)
You’re not the yo-yo bear! (for some reason getting off the bus at the end of the road -
Complete with fig leaf)

Deliriumoftheendless · 23/02/2020 18:09

Appropriate Role Model story time will take even longer.

Mockersisrightasusual · 23/02/2020 18:06

You just know that furry storry time is just a moment away.

Dominatrix SS Experiment Camp story time might take a bit longer.

Imnobody4 · 23/02/2020 17:51

Apart from anything else it's giving children a distorted idea of what it means to be gay. I hope one of them asks the HT if that's how she dresses when not at school.

testing987654321 · 23/02/2020 17:41

My worry is that, if not written correctly, these stories will give oxygen to the genuine homophobes. Gay men have been fighting for years against nasty stereotypes about being sexual deviants or preying on children.

How about some gay men speak out about this then? Pink News, for example, is ideally placed to point out that adult drag acts should not be performing to children.

LynnSchmob · 23/02/2020 17:40

Absolutely none of the children would go home and google the drag queen who read them some stories? the HT should be sacked because of a total disregard to basic child safe guarding. A complete disgrace.

definitelygc · 23/02/2020 17:38

A question - how do Mumsnetters feel about tipping off papers with stories like this? Would the Times be interested? There's always the Daily Mail but they are vile.

My worry is that, if not written correctly, these stories will give oxygen to the genuine homophobes. Gay men have been fighting for years against nasty stereotypes about being sexual deviants or preying on children.

Then again, I am seriously concerned by this growing trend of having adult entertainers with names like "flow job" visiting schools and libraries. This should sound every safeguarding alarm.

CallofDoodee · 23/02/2020 17:20

Holy fucking shit - so that's why the HT couldn't tag the Drag Queen in her tweet as well as Mhairi - because their twitter handle is '@flowjobqueen' and on their twitter feed they have, amongst other things, a video of themselves simulating fellatio. Oh and their best mate, who they tag more than once is called @queenqueef_666.

I am absolutely... I just don't know what to say! What the actual fuck is Mhairi Black on? Why every single fucking day do I see something new around this whole issue which just makes me despair? Is anyone here in Mhairi Black's constituency?!

OhHolyJesus · 23/02/2020 17:20

Flowjob? Shortened to Flow to 'sanitise' it for primary school children?

Like Diamond Goodrim becoming Diamond, this is just vile.

No wonder the HT has made her Twitter account private. Hope she encounters a backlash tomorrow, like the parents don't have better things to do.

DidoLamenting · 23/02/2020 17:03

I haven't clicked to find out why, but I am guessing not suitable for primary school kids

There is a lot of gratuitous swearing (although I admit that I think most swearing is gratuitous unless you have slammed the car door on your hand whilst simultaneously dropping a large bag of cat food on your toe and your house keys down a drain) which is not suitable for children. I don't think children should be given a role model who thinks dropping gratuitous swearing into every day conversation is normal or acceptable.

There is also a brief video clip which confirms that whoever said burlesque is fat girls stripping is spot on.

definitelygc · 23/02/2020 16:34

I found this image on their Twitter which shows their official drag name is "Flow Job". So a school has invited a Drag Queen called "Flow Job" to read books to children. Mother of God.

Who did you write to at the school? From what I could see on Twitter it was the Head who was promoting all this.

Drag Queen Story Hour in Scottish Primary School
testing987654321 · 23/02/2020 16:21

I just saw that they call themselves flowsaphine @flowjobqueen on Twitter. I have looked at the account and many of the tweets say The following media includes potentially sensitive content.

I haven't clicked to find out why, but I am guessing not suitable for primary school kids.

definitelygc · 23/02/2020 15:37

Wait... Flow is short for "flowjob queen"?! What. The. Fuck.

GrumpyGran8 · 23/02/2020 15:32

It’s a primary school in one of the most deprived areas of Scotland.
I hope all the parents ask them how much of their budget is getting spent on this nonsense. Angry

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definitelygc · 23/02/2020 13:00

I am genuinely confused as to why drag is suddenly being promoted so much as part of "LGBT education". Drag has nothing to do with lesbians and bisexual women and I thought the hardcore trans rights activists were pretty anti-drag as well? I'm sure I read a story about TRAs trying to ban cross-dressing fancy dress at universities a while ago.

To be honest I do have some sympathy with transwomen who don't really like drag as it is essentially presenting men in dresses and make up as comedy entertainment. A lot of the "comedy" of drag and pantomime dames has historically been in the fact that "you can tell it's a man in a wig".

So why are drag queens suddenly being pushed to the fore? Are we witnessing an attempt to sanitise drag and make it about "gender fluidity" rather than laughing at men with huge plastic tits and a husky voice? Why is this happening? Is it because gay men who like drag have so much influence over the LGBT as a whole?

Babdoc · 23/02/2020 12:31

Complete side issue, but DidoLamenting, you’re not quite right about the pronunciation of Mhairi.
It is indeed Gaelic, but it’s pronounced with an M in the nominative and a V in the accusative.
So you’d say “Mhairi is an idiot” but “I can’t stand Vhairi”.
Or at least you would if you shared my opinion of the ignorant SNP poster child!

Sweetpotatoaddict · 23/02/2020 12:00

It’s a primary school in one of the most deprived areas of Scotland. The level of deprivation is horrifying.

marvellousnightforamooncup · 23/02/2020 11:56

I hope that's peaked a few more into completing the consultation.
Mhairi Black is an idiot.

Couldn't agree more.

rogdmum · 23/02/2020 11:41

Thanks Dido I know you weren’t aiming it at me but it did make me think about what I’d done and although the photos are in the public domain already, in hindsight, I’m not comfortable sharing them further, MNHQ have deleted the image for me. Smile

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Deliriumoftheendless · 23/02/2020 11:39

I’m sorry I don’t want to derail but you can talk about your relationships without referring to sex. So a lesbian who works in a school may discuss getting married to her female partner or say yes I am gay that means I go out with women. Just as het staff may say “my husband/wife/gf/bf”.

Sorry again for derail.

Thingybob · 23/02/2020 11:39

The HT's Twitter account has now been locked

It was just unlocked long enough for a tweet to appear complaining about the bullying and abuse they have received.

A quick read through showed how much time has been invested in LGBT education. Over the last couple of weeks, the Headteacher came out to the school and explained their same sex relationship, a gay wrestler visited the school to discuss his experience, a uni LBGT group delivered a workshop, as well as the visits from the drag queen and Mhari Black.

Then there's the bunting and rainbow squad

At Glencoats Primary in Renfrewshire, pupil leaders can become part of the Rainbow Squad, helping to implement the school’s LGBT Charter

www.goodtoknow.co.uk/family/teaching-children-diversity-528272

twitter.com/TannahillCentre/status/1226868767218700288/photo/1

FGS, this is a primary school

NotAGirl · 23/02/2020 11:31

The misogyny of drag just keeps coming through, female biological functions are just a prop for a cheap laugh Hmm

LastTrainEast · 23/02/2020 11:24

Deliriumoftheendless Nothing wrong if the subject comes up, but when I was in primary school none of my teachers told me anything about their sex life. Though we all knew about the P.E. Teacher of course.

CallofDoodee · 23/02/2020 11:23

What is that drag queens actual name? Is it just 'Flow' I wonder? If it is a name that is supposed to be a play on periods then.... WTF?!

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