Drag Queen Story Hour in Scottish Primary School

Woke v Boring. Yeah. It’s like a bunch of drunk idiots on a night out, fgs. Anything goes.

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SNP MP Mhairi Black masterfully shuts down critics of primary school’s drag queen story time

I'm an overseas Scot and definitely getting that "WTF is going on?" feeling reading some of the news from home. At first I was baffled by my dad's hostility to Sturgeon, now I'm starting to understand.

I'm just old enough to remember the 70s, and plenty old enough to remember the 80s. It wasn't as homophobic as Owen wants to pretend it was. It was, otoh, absolutely swimming in normalization of adult men sexually preying on children, which apparently some people missed so much that they decided it was time to bring it back.

I‘m not a fan of the current cultural Zeitgeist in Scotland whereby calling people cunts, swearing lots, talking about some pretty vile stuff (like threatening to punch Tories) in grammatically incorrect gobbledygook and then claiming it’s just ‘authentic Scottish bantz‘ seems to be regarded as hilarious

I've never bought into the "proud to be Scottish" syndrome- I don't really see what the accident of where one of my parents and where I was born justified being proud, but the current Scottish zeitgeist is definitely something to be ashamed of.

I do swear myself but I was brought up by quite prim and proper family (lovely women and men who I respect and love greatly) who were v keen on not swearing, so somehow I still can’t help feeling a bit guilty about it and wouldn’t dream of swearing in public discourse, or to a stranger etc.. We are all affected by our upbringing, it appears!

Thanks for your thoughts. I really struggle with this at the mo. I feel alienated in my own country.

Owen and chums always invoke the homophobia of the 80s etc as a a way of shutting down discussion. Well do they remember what else happened during that time? Oh yes, children were sexually abused left right and fucking centre because of shitty safeguarding and no one wanting to upset anyone. So if you want to bang on about history etc, have a think about that too.

YY. The likes of Savile given carte blanche.

Here is Flow encouraging some to punch a female Tory supporter in the face.

So much for tolerance and inclusion.

I‘m not a fan of the current cultural Zeitgeist in Scotland whereby calling people cunts, swearing lots, talking about some pretty vile stuff (like threatening to punch Tories) in grammatically incorrect gobbledygook and then claiming it’s just ‘authentic Scottish bantz‘ seems to be regarded as hilarious.

I swear quite a lot but somehow manage not to threaten to punch people whose politics I disagree with or use misogynistic slurs. Amazingly enough it can be done!

What seems to be going on is that some people have decided that since they're Woke, and everyone else is Boring, that means they're allowed to do whatever the fuck they want to the Boring people, who deserve whatever they get for refusing to comply with the Woke program. Which is not how a society is meant to work.

It's the thoughtless self obsession and arrogance of adolescence combined with a social zeitgeist that supports using the above as a weapon against anyone deemed not part of the ingroup, imo. People in their 20s should have outgrown that sort of behavior, people in their 30s even more so, but apparently arrested emotional development is very hip at the moment.

The Times article says the children asked to have a drag performer visit as part of lgbt week.

Maybe they've all been watching Drag Race during indoor playtime!

The Times article says the children asked to have a drag performer visit as part of lgbt week.

Now I know a lot of infant school children. I don't know any that would ask for such an adult thing on an adult topic.

I'm thinking vegan cat.

I know a Gp friend who had discussed commissioning some LGBT input into local schools to try to support high recorded numbers of Gp visits around anxiety linked to sexual and gender identity.

Gee, I wonder why they might feel anxious about that?

I can't believe the picture is still up on the Instagram page! The headteacher's 'thanks for coming' comment has been removed now though...

Hopefully she is in deep shit right now - not because I want someone to be in deep shit, and god knows being a HT is a fucking hard job, but because it would mean that at least this wasn't going unchecked and lessons might be learnt somewhere.

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When I've been involved in charter marks (in schools and local authorities) if senior leaders rate it and the publicity is good then there's a pressure to move up the grades. Presumably if you can get your local MP popping in with their friends plus publicity, that must a nice bit of attention for a pressurised headteacher?
As for cost I have no idea whether the school pays or not.

Thanks for the explanation.

Not many comments on The Times piece. If the deletion of my innocuous comment is anything to go by, the mods there have decided not to let much through at all. How strangely coy.

I‘m not a fan of the current cultural Zeitgeist in Scotland whereby calling people cunts, swearing lots, talking about some pretty vile stuff (like threatening to punch Tories) in grammatically incorrect gobbledygook and then claiming it’s just ‘authentic Scottish bantz‘ seems to be regarded as hilarious.

This is what happens when you mock people for being prudes. Seems prudish is one of the worst things you can be, these days.

I would have thought context mattered though

I think parents could argue in this case that the context is hugely problematic @Scrimshaw

If it's anything like our school, kids sign a checklist of photo permissions at the start of term, which specifies various situations, like 'local press', 'social media', etc.

I would have thought context mattered though - maybe if you realise you can't actually use the full name of the 'flowjobqueen' you're inviting in then might be prudent to let them know not to post photos on their social media along with all the nsfw shots?

This is the job of school head and teachers, for goodness sake, safeguarding is one of their most important jobs.

MB seems to have some real issues (possibly stemming from being bullied herself for her lesbianism?). Seems to me that she would benefit from some counselling or self reflection. She is projecting — full of anger. It’s not healthy.

I was going to say I think MB has overstepped this time ... but I thought that when she called women 'Jeremy Hunts'. I can't quite believe she thinks baselessly insulting parents is how an elected representative should act.

If MB isn't disciplined or apologises, I'm done with the SNP. We should have an equivalent of the expel me hashtag that Labour members used.

If pictures of the children have been published without consent this is a GDPR breach as well as a safeguarding failing isn't it? Wouldn't be covered under the 'household' exemption. There is "nothing under the GDPR prohibiting people from taking photos in a public place. Provided you’re not harassing anyone, taking photographs of people in public is generally allowed. However, whether you can publish a photograph to a broad-based audience is a different question. In other words, taking a photo in public is generally fine; it’s what you do with that photo that can potentially become a data protection issue."

Why on Earth are these MPs let loose on Twitter - and they ignore any replies that disagree with them, even if it’s the majority (“haters”). So many of them need to be put on the naughty step

Oops! Exactly @lord! Just how experienced is Black? What is her knowledge of what is appropriate and not? She's like an angry 6th former with a platform who keeps on keeping on with what she believes is right with no life experience

@Lord

I know a Gp friend who had discussed commissioning some LGBT input into local schools to try to support high recorded numbers of Gp visits around anxiety linked to sexual and gender identity.

The routes in are very varied.