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James Morton scottish trans alliance quote

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boomshakalika · 22/02/2020 11:02

I recently read a quote on a thread from James Morton of the Scottish Trans Alliance where they talked about linking with women's organisations in order to pave the way to influence national policy. I can't find it again.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

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littlbrowndog · 22/02/2020 23:35

Eek should have read up the thread

Yeah have seen Morton speak and kinda thought. Giving off a persona yet yet something else going on there

But how come Morton is able to speak about issues that effect women and children and is able to influence both Scottish and Uk parliaments

What are Morton’s quilifcations for this ?

littlbrowndog · 22/02/2020 23:28

How does Morton have so much power in Scotland ?

FloralBunting · 22/02/2020 23:16

A quarter of respondents stated that their partner or ex-partner had threatened or attempted suicide or self-harm as a way to make them do, or stop them doing something. Receiving such threats from a partner or ex-partner can generate intense feelings of guilt and concern for the wellbeing of the partner or ex-partner particularly since suicidal thoughts, threats and actions are strongly associated with mental illness, severe emotional distress, and vulnerability

You are shitting me?!!!

OldCrone · 22/02/2020 22:33

This report Tinsel?

www.scottishtrans.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/trans_domestic_abuse.pdf

This survey of 60 trans identified people says:
80% of respondents stated that they had experienced emotionally, sexually, or physically abusive behaviour by a partner or ex-partner.

This report also says that if the partner of a trans person becomes suicidal, this is a form of emotional abuse against the trans person. This seems a bit hypocritical from a movement which regularly quotes bogus suicide stats about trans people in order to try to manipulate public opinion.

A quarter of respondents stated that their partner or ex-partner had threatened or attempted suicide or self-harm as a way to make them do, or stop them doing something. Receiving such threats from a partner or ex-partner can generate intense feelings of guilt and concern for the wellbeing of the partner or ex-partner particularly since suicidal thoughts, threats and actions are strongly associated with mental illness, severe emotional distress, and vulnerability. (page 14)

TinselAngel · 22/02/2020 22:17

I saw it quoted recently that the Scottish Trans Alliance say 80% of trans people suffer domestic abuse.

PlayYouLikeAShark · 22/02/2020 21:27

JM has way more reach & influence than the meek & polite persona suggests. Just watch any interview or read any feature where sex is mentioned & note the response is always about sex characteristics not sex. You know, those 'bits' that plastic surgery can alter. It's the subtlety that underpins the absolute determination behind every move JM makes. JM being involved in the LGBT GEO group is not incidental. JM almost got GRA changes swept through unnoticed, had Magdalene Berns & others not 'inconveniently' become vocal on what JM's intentions meant for women. Nothing JM does is 'incidental' or unintended.

R0wantrees · 22/02/2020 18:48

I've often thought there should be a thread with quotes by James Morton.

Morton has been very influential pimarily in Scotland but also in Westminster.

Morton has had extraorinary influence on public policies which should protect children & Vulnerable Adults.

December 2019 Holyrood exclusive interview by Mandy Rhodes
10 December
(extract)
“It is so hard to explain because it wasn’t like a delusion – I know I was born female – but in my dreams, I just always had a male body, I was always a boy, and even though I could see when looking in a mirror that I had a female body, I would often forget others weren’t seeing me as male. There would be a weird dynamic because I was unmistakably looking and sounding female at that point.

“I don’t know why I developed such a strong sense of myself as male and a strong need to be seen by others that way but, for whatever bio-psycho-social reasons, I did. By the time I was in my teens that was what had really crystallised for me. I think sometimes it’s like how much gelatine is in someone’s identity to make them set. Some people clearly have a more movable sense of themselves and other people are set firmly.

“Looking back, people would probably have seen me as a very troubled teenager but not known why. People would probably have said that this – being trans – all came out of nowhere because my physical appearance in my early teens was as such a girl, a very librarian-looking, long-haired girl.

“I don’t think that people would have thought my issues stemmed from gender and when I came out as trans, I think people were quite surprised. Once they thought about it … it started to make more sense, but their initial reaction was like, ‘what…what?’”

The political backdrop was the early 1990s – Thatcher’s Britain – with an ugly row over Section 28 at its height when schools were effectively banned from covering LGBT issues. Consequently, Morton had no one to talk to, no role models to see himself in, and when his periods started, he became increasingly anxious about what his body was doing. And by the time he was 16 and preparing to sit exams, he was depressed, self-harming, and suicidal. Despite this, he achieved five ‘A’s in his Highers but while contemplating university, one teacher told him, pointedly, not to apply for any face-to-face interviews because he would “come across as too weird”.

Increasingly distressed about who he was, Morton made several suicide attempts and attended the Young People’s Unit at the Royal Edinburgh where, for the first time, he found a way to meet other LGBT young people.

“There was this little photocopied black and white leaflet in the YPU for what was called the Stonewall Youth Project back then but it’s now LGBT Youth Scotland and so consequently, all the folks who were going to the youth group had come from the YPU and we were all quite distressed but that was the first time I had knowingly met anybody else who was LGBT.

“To put this in some context, this was around the same time as the very first Scottish Pride and so the LGBT youth group made a banner but only about three people felt able to take it and go on the march because the rest of us were too scared." (continues)
www.holyrood.com/inside-politics/view,making-the-change-exclusive-interview-with-scottish-trans-alliance-manager-_14834.htm

BetsyM00 · 22/02/2020 13:45

Might it have come from the thread on the We're Still Here conference:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3398737-We-re-Still-Here-Conference-8th-September-A-report-from-the-inside