Dawn Butler on R4 just now

I'm afraid I just thought she didn't sound very bright.

I fear you're right.

But Dawn thinks Dawn is bloody brilliant, I fear.

I'm afraid I just thought she didn't sound very bright. Her CORE + D plan was an attempt at a catchy slogan that was just weird, and sounded made up by Armando Ioanucci for a parody programme.

Someone also needs to ask if she's sure about that 1% stat. Because if she is, why is it 2% in the male prison population?

I will be fair, though: she's not mentioning transmen because she knows nobody is scared of transmen. Which is because transmen pose no threat to male sports or safety, and nor do they pose any to ours own.

It's almost as though nobody gender critical is remotely bothered by someone being trans - just by the risks to women's provision, inclusion and safety of people with male bodies being allowed to access female.

”Every time we talk about it, another trans person gets attacked.

She is seriously now saying that women should not talk about their rights or they are responsible for attacks on trans people. What a manipulative shitty person she is.

Her whole approach reminds me of that "God kills a kitten" meme.

And yes she's shit at data. She said there were three thousand street homeless people in a constituency. There were thirty.

Full Fact also say that her claims on LGBT hate crime are completely unsupported by fact. Her stats are wrong, anyway, but in point of fact the Home Office say more people are willing to report it now (obviously a great thing), hence the increase in reported incidence - according to the National Crime Survey, which is the means most commonly used to assess crime incidence, it is falling.

Not Dawn Butler, but another Labour MP who takes the mick. Kate Osamor, who promoted her drug dealer son to a £43,000 House of Commonjs job.
What is happening, are there no checks and balances any more?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6377017/Labour-MP-son-living-social-housing-home-earning-130-000-year.html

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Osamor#Plagiarism_claims

I guess calculating the %age of trans men in the UK was too taxing for Butler. Her remit is equalities- trans men are well within it.

Yes, "from the statistics provided, how much does the Shadow Minister think about females who are transgender?" would be an important question.

The problem with all of this is that they were never listening to feminist theory in the first place.
They kind of half listened and now are using terms that they don't understand.

Labour does not know the difference between sex and gender. When I rejoined the form asked 'gender - male/female/other'

I wrote to them to say that male and female aren't genders and maybe think what the purpose of gathering this data is. Do they want to know how many people in their party are in the sex class female and are discriminated against because of this fact or do they just want to know who feels womanly today. I suggested that they might be better off asking for sex and having another question for how people identify. Obviously I heard nothing back.

I have also written to my mp with my opinions about the trans pledge and asked him to confirm that my views are welcome in the party or to expel me.

I am done.

"Transwomen are just 1% of the population
There's not many transwomen really
There's about one in 3000
So for every 3000 women you might meet, you might meet one transwoman."

Setting aside the dodgy maths I guess calculating the %age of trans men in the UK was too taxing for Butler. Her remit is equalities- trans men are well within it.

Is this legal??

Three months later, Butler accepted a nine day trip to Los Angeles worth £14,200 for herself and a member of staff as a gift from Anthony Watson.

Somewhat related.

When WPUK met with butler, details of the meeting including names of attendees, were leaked to Pink News.

womansplaceuk.org/statement-on-meeting-with-dawn-butler/

From the PN clip Dawn Butler MP (Shadow Women & Equalities minister) says:

"Transwomen are just 1% of the population.
There's not many transwomen really.
There's about one in 3000.
So for every 3000 women you might meet, you might meet one transwoman."

I think this statement would be an excellent resource for anyone teaching how important it is to understand statistics.

It does rather lend itself to a series of questions:

1. The ONS last estimate of UK population was 66 435 600 (mid 2018). What is 1% of this figure?

mobile.twitter.com/PinkNews/status/1230987562564694018

I googled "Dawn Butler freebies" and got the results I've linked to. In an attempt to be fair I googled "Keir Starmer freebies" "Rebecca Long-Bailey freebies" and "Lisa Nandy Freebies" and got no results. I suppose this might be journalists' bias or possibly none of them go on "fact finding" trips.

Here's more information about the Sicilian. Why was she at a travel and tourism conference? Tourism is not in her shadow ministerial purview.

travelwirenews.com/shadow-equalities-minister-spent-week-at-luxury-sicily-hotel-for-two-day-tourism-conference-1040818/

Couldn’t she just have used google.

In fact she should have used google about a lot of things she has saidv

Butler has declared the purpose of the visit [the £14,000 LA trip] as a “Women and Equalities LGBT fact finding visit“.

How could she say that with a straight face?

Shit

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Corrupt_Practices_Act

Thank you andyoldlabour. If you add in all the corporate hospitality, champagne dinners, special awards that Stonewall offer and politicians accept in clear defiance of the Nolan principles of public life, a pattern of buying influence clearly emerges

How does she still have a political career? If you did this in a multinational company, you would be sacked.

I know Guido is biased but here's a bit more information about Butler's £14,000 fact finding trip to Los Angeles.

order-order.com/2018/05/29/dawn-butlers-14000-la-jolly-paid-for-by-blairite-guru/

Here is Dawn having a jolly night out on a billionaire's yacht.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/10308985/labour-candidate-billionaire-bash-corbyn-speech/amp/

Thank you andyoldlabour. If you add in all the corporate hospitality, champagne dinners, special awards that Stonewall offer and politicians accept in clear defiance of the Nolan principles of public life, a pattern of buying influence clearly emerges.

For those interested, number 2, Integrity states:
Holders of public office must avoid placing themselves under any obligation to people or organisations that might try inappropriately to influence them in their work. They should not act or take decisions in order to gain financial or other material benefits for themselves, their family, or their friends. They must declare and resolve any interests and relationships.

Yep, good old fashioned corruption. Never forget that in the mix.

^In 2018 Dawn Butler appointed Anthony Watson (A Stonewall ambassador) as an LGBT+ advisor to Labour - don't know what the gowing rate for that is, but I am pretty sure it isn't a freebie.
Three months later, Butler accepted a nine day trip to Los Angeles worth £14,200 for herself and a member of staff as a gift from Anthony Watson^.

Wow. It's just incredible. Thank you for posting that andy

It is quite interesting when you delve into the past of MP's and government advisors, to see how they interact and possibly contravene conflict of interest situations.
In 2018 Dawn Butler appointed Anthony Watson (A Stonewall ambassador) as an LGBT+ advisor to Labour - don't know what the gowing rate for that is, but I am pretty sure it isn't a freebie.
Three months later, Butler accepted a nine day trip to Los Angeles worth £14,200 for herself and a member of staff as a gift from Anthony Watson.
There is plenty of more stuff - expenses fiddling, porkies about homelessness in her constituency - all harmless mistakes of course.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawn_Butler#Expenses

@Chiochan, exactly the same is going on in the Green Party. I know as a close relative has been on the shitty end as well as others I know.

I expect the Lib Dem's too.

@ArriettyJones
Absolutly, its enraging when you compare her to women like Lucy Masoud or Allison Bailey or a hundred other working class black women who are genuine political leaders in their communities. I dont know how Labour ended up with her as an MP.