GRC changes dropped?

mcduffy
The Janice Turner article on puberty blockers is great. The Keira Bell case is heartbreaking and as it proceeds through court, more negative publicity will ensue. Harry Miller's verdict happening in the same week as Labour contenders for leadership are committing to a Stalinist purge against left wing feminists was serendipitous timing. The wheels are coming off this bus, not a moment too soon.

An 11-year-old child is probably years from his or her first kiss. Yet the drug they are about to take will almost certainly lead to a medical pathway which will leave them sterile. Since their gametes will never be allowed to mature, doctors will not even be able to harvest their sperm or eggs. Can any 11-year-old understand the gravity of ruling out ever having children?

The essay by Janice Turner is impressive, too. Feels like coverage is snowballing. Thanks, Labour! Useful for something if not effective opposition...

Transactivism is becoming more and more visible. The extent of capture within the Labour Party has been laid wide open. It has reached a point where the commentary is so extreme that I can’t understand how anyone sane is still buying into it. I find it alarming, but hope the hints I see are correct: that increasing visibility will have the effect of speeding it’s demise.

AnyOldSpartaBix
Absolutely agree.

Don't hold your breath on this.

“While we believe adults should be able to live their lives, and trans rights should be respected and protected, the government also has a role to play in protecting children,” a government source said

This is excellent news. The Times article specifically mentions that children as young as twelve can begin hormone treatment and that they are encouraged to exert autonomy in their choices by keeping their decisions secret from their parents. I think a tipping point has been reached with the confluence of various events;all of which expose this aggressive lobby to negative publicity. Thank you Rebecca LB, that Lloyd bloke for the stellar part you have played in this.

I had a feeling in my bones that today was a good news day!

I hope it’s true too.

Transactivism is becoming more and more visible. The extent of capture within the Labour Party has been laid wide open. It has reached a point where the commentary is so extreme that I can’t understand how anyone sane is still buying into it. I find it alarming, but hope the hints I see are correct: that increasing visibility will have the effect of speeding it’s demise.

There’s a brittle feel to it all.

I was just coming on to say the same, aesopfable.

Now it looks as though we have halted the slide of the Overton Window towards full self ID, we need to set it in motion in the other direction.

The GRA is an utter nonsense. It's original purpose is obsolete anyway. Nobody but nobody (apart from incorrectly-assigned intersex people) should be able to change the sex on their birth certificate.

They need to repeal the bloody thing.

I really hope this is true

I also hope it isn't like a film where most people didn't realise there was ever even a threat so nothing changes and then the threat comes back because no one is looking for it

If this is true, then Alle-FUCKING-luia. It's like the grownups have finally arrived. Penny Mordaunt isn't a GEO minister anymore, so I wouldn't take her quote as gospel.

GC feminists should not be complacent though. Most importantly, there's going to be a lot of confused children and traumatised detransitioners to help in the years ahead (guess who will be picking up the pieces for decades to come - women, in the main). Then there's a bunch of court cases to win, and a cultural battle to reclaim women's sports, language, etc.

The Times also has a leading article on the Labour leadership contest, and takes a very dim view of the self-indulgence of the candidates re trans issues: www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/the-times-view-on-the-labour-leadership-election-labour-pains-w0z087vfv

"It beggars belief that after a period of reflection the Labour Party should have concluded that the key to its future electoral fortunes lies in denying the existence of biological sex [ ... ]

"The result is that the leadership hopefuls now find themselves immersed in an ideological war with some of the party’s most stalwart supporters [ ... ] Their crime is to believe that Labour should continue to defend powers included in its own 2010 Equalities Act."

This is great news. Now we just need to stop Scotland from ploughing ahead with this dangerous nonsense.

I don't really get the link to children in the Times article though? I understand the dangers of puberty blockers etc but don't really understand what that has to do with self ID and the GRA.

I think that's an old quote from Penny Mordaunt . They way it's written it's a bit hard to tell. A search brings up the same quote in older articles so I think its from when she had the W&E brief.

Sounds like they are planning to remove the spousal right to consent, though, and it is unclear what they are actually planning re women only spaces.

This, from Penny Mordaunt:

There are some outdated barriers facing people wanting to change their gender, such as having to get your spouse’s consent, and government should have a ‘tell us once’ service so we end the nonsense of people having different documents in different genders. The law on women-only spaces also needs clarity. Some of this will take time — you can’t grow healthcare and support capacity overnight, but I think all sides of the debate will be reassured when the consultation results are published.”

I don’t think it is time to celebrate just yet.

Good news, keep shining that sunlight!

Are the Conservatives, or Tories, going to recognise the word "Woman" as being "Adult human female"? And are the Conservatives going to take child safeguarding seriously?

If this turns out to be correct the next battle is to tackle the policy capture across organisations that don't uphold the EA re single sex. Yes I think it's unlikely the Tories will go all out to do that and it's probably means continued challenges and litigation.

Thanks for the share Languishingfemale

There's bloody sunlight everywhere at the moment. It's such a relief. And yes - we must thank those complacent fools in the labour party for so unselfishly sharing with us all their delusional thoughts on beliefs and the rights of child rapists. So enlightening.

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I wonder how much we need to thank Nandy et al. for the airing they have given this?

The GRA reform was meant to be swept under the carpet.

I'm sure advocates thought it was a fait accompli.

It it hadn't been for those pesky women. Just a few mind, those phobes on bloody Mumsnet.

The Times are on fire this weekend. Janice Turner's great article, one about the labour party having a hissy fit because they've been found out for kicking women out of the party and now this. Share token:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d19ad4fe-54d9-11ea-a869-24971f770bf3?shareToken=d1a3ef15362caa2e5e31f9498f776641

Oh god really? I hope this is true! The tide is turning! Well done to everyone here who has pushed back, this is amazing news.

Doesn't matter what the bloody Times says.

Are the Conservatives, or Tories, going to recognise the word "Woman" as being "Adult human female"? And are the Conservatives going to take child safeguarding seriously?

I would like more evidence.

Ova I can't see past the first few paragraphs