Labour phone canvasser whingeing about transphobia

Oh hai Mimmymum. Just can't stay away.

Plus not everyone does Twitter...
Me for example. The only grown ups that I know who use Twitter do it for work, not personally.

YY Datun - and now they can't claim they don't know about it or haven't seen it.

Good questions HandsOffMyRights.

Can you define transphobia for us? Is it when men reject men who say they are women, for example? Or make it hard for transmen to use male facilities?

The word terf has already been designated by a judge as a slur, or hate speech, I believe.

The word transphobe is fast becoming synonymous with 'woman who stands up for her rights which means I can shout and swear at her'.

It's genuinely sounding just like witch and bitch.

Is there a special URL to register for one of these calls? Like a radio competition where they call you back?

Like "www.labour.org.uk/callawoman" or something?

he's also tweeted how sad that there were transphobe hecklers in the audience at the Hustle thing.

If you think there are a lot of trans faith unbelievers in the Labour party wait til you get a look at the real world

These Labour fools are like that Japanese solider in the jungle who carried on fighting WW2 for years, not believing it had ended. If they took a step outside and looked back in, they'd see an Emperor striding about completely in the nudey, like we all do.

Thanks for the link TheWordWoman I have filled out the survey to explain my disgust at why labour lost, putting the blame firmly on anti women policies.

I'm wondering whether this is the first time Ben has needed to discuss this outside the echo chamber?

With no debate, safe spaces, no platforming it actually must come as a hell of a surprise to realise that it's his views that are actually the fringe views.

Some people must be shitting themselves. Imagine having to explain why you gave your child untested drugs and surgery once everyone realises. The doctors practising from abroad. The staff leaving the Tavistock. And still some push on to get this child abuse taught in schools?

I'd be over invested in keeping people quiet too.

And I chose a screenshot rather than a link so as not to encourage a pile on.

Shhhh - don't let pesky things like facts and reality get in the way of a good frothing up on twitter! Aint that right, Helen? Gotta keep pushing the bullshit.

The irony of being called bigots from a group of people who are so eager to avoid the opinions of others that they used #nodebate to helpfully signal their bigotry.

I saw Ash Sarkars 'facts don't care about your feelings' tweet (retweeted by Owen Jones) and actually chuckled out loud!

The way she thinks it's such a win, such a gotcha, with seemingly zero awareness of the irony when it comes to her stance on trans ideology.

Are these people truly this hard of thinking, or are they willfully just hoping that no one notices the irony and hypocrisy?

I think Helen has been banned, DickKerr.

Ahh, such a shame. Personally, I'm not sure I'd spend that much time on a site I was banned from, let alone admit to it on twitter.

Can someone explain what is the objection to condemning transphobia? I don't mean the MN interpretation of it, I mean actual transphobia.

Who's objecting to condemning genuine transphobic?

Can someone explain what is the objection to condemning transphobia

Can you define transphobia for us? Is it when men reject men who say they are women, for example? Or make it hard for transmen to use male facilities?

BTW, it's free to participate in the discussion here - you can just sign up

Oh Helen is signed up alright. I have no doubt Helen is one of those reporters who MNHQ identified as being long-standing signed up members with a posting history. MNHQ seem to think that means there can’t possibly be any deliberate targeting of particular posters.

Missed canvassers off the end of that post !

I am so hoping to get a call from the Labour Party candidates.

Can someone explain what is the objection to condemning transphobia? I don't mean the MN interpretation of it, I mean actual transphobia.

Qcng

Here is a link to the tweet. I cannot see anyone supporting Ben on that twatter feed. Everyone knows what is happening now. The backlash against this is going to be spectacular.

twitter.com/BenMSmith4/status/1230571607896272897

That pledge, Nandys prison views and Butlers take on biology, have really opened eyes I think.

Agree.

So worrying though that it needs spelling out in children's fridge magnet letters.

I mean, my dear old Nan (no interest in politics, didn't really go to school) was left a young widow after the war, birthing and raising 8 children in poverty while working scrubbing floors. She was left in no doubt as to what womanhood is and what the patriarchy dictates.

How insulting and entitked the likes of Ben are. Clueless.

Viper witchery.