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Local police headquarters flying the trans flag

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BoneAppleTeaa · 20/02/2020 20:12

My local police HQ are flying the trans flag, along with the rainbow flag and others as part of LGBT history month. I really want to ask when they’re going to fly a flag for women’s rights and the end to violence against women but I’m not sure I have the energy for it on Twitter. It’s made me so annoyed though! What can I say to them? Is there even a flag to fly for women?

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JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown · 22/02/2020 10:49

I've seen the trans flag a good few times and thought it was ironic that it was pink and blue, but apparently, it's very much on purpose.
From the flags designer:
The stripes at the top and bottom are light blue, the traditional color for baby boys. The stripes next to them are pink, the traditional color for baby girls. The stripe in the middle is white, for those who are transitioning or consider themselves having a neutral or undefined gender.
Nothing but stereotypes in plain sight.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 22/02/2020 10:35

I wonder if police still tell women terrified of men's violence to 'wait until he socks you one' so you have proof. That was what I was told when I reported a neighbour's threats.

zen1 · 22/02/2020 09:39

I drove past a fire station yesterday flying a huge rainbow flag (and no others). I wondered why only some groups are acknowledged in this way.

R0wantrees · 22/02/2020 09:36

kareningalasmith.com/tag/white-ribbon-day/

R0wantrees · 22/02/2020 09:35

I hadn't heard of the white ribbon either until I saw it on police cars and googled it, but yes, it seems to refer to a campaign to stop violence against women.

Karen Ingala Smith on the origins of International Day Against Violence Against Women & the men's 'white ribbon campaign'
[https://kareningalasmith.com/tag/white-ribbon-day/]]

BovaryX · 22/02/2020 09:34

But I think it's important to fly it
Why?

borntobequiet · 22/02/2020 09:31

Also, it would liven up and prettify police stations, cars, whatever.

borntobequiet · 22/02/2020 09:29

They’d be better off just putting up bunting. Easy to add more and more pointless flags as and when.

Imnobody4 · 22/02/2020 09:23

Why aren't they flying the asexual flag I want to know.
“The asexual pride flag consists of four horizontal stripes: black, grey, white, and purple from top to bottom. … The black stripe represents asexuality, the grey stripe representing the grey-area between sexual and asexual, the white stripe sexuality, and the purple stripe community.”

BoneAppleTeaa · 22/02/2020 09:06

Exactly EmptyFieldOfFucks, I think all groups should be represented.

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EmptyFieldOfFucks · 21/02/2020 23:08

All the individual components which make up the rainbow flag, have their own flags too - rainbow encompasses all but it's often these days taken to mostly represent lesbians and gay people. To me, it still encompasses all.

The white stripe on the trans flag - if blue and pink mean male and female, then perhaps it stands for the crossover, and / or the middle ground, or non binary.

I don't know

But I think it's important to fly it. I do think it would be right, and appropriate to also fly the women's flag. And to also fly one for stamping out racism. Plus possibly one for us disabled people and one with the Sophie Lancaster Foundation in mind.

Goosefoot · 21/02/2020 19:10

After living in a town that had a major controversy about what flags the town hall could fly, I came to the conclusion that really it's best if towns, cities, police services, stick to flying official flags of the country, town, etc. Otherwise it very quickly becomes this sort of free for all of groups competing for space and the gods help you if you leave one out.

JellySlice · 21/02/2020 19:04

The Effing Union Flag is supposed to represent everyone. It ought to be enough.

The police are supposed to protect everyone. Not show any partiality.

JellySlice · 21/02/2020 19:02

And when will they fly the Coexist flag for inter-religious acceptance and tolerance?

Oh, wait...

Mockersisrightasusual · 21/02/2020 18:41

The Effing Union Flag is supposed to represent everyone. It ought to be enough.

furrytoebean · 21/02/2020 18:39

Police cars in my area have the rainbow flag on one side and the trans flag on the other.

I really can't get my head around the trans flag. The rainbow flag has all the colours 'everyone is welcome, whatever colour you are you are still in the rainbow' why is another flag needed? And one that's so gender reductive you're are blue or pink choose one'

BoneAppleTeaa · 21/02/2020 17:07

Or do I mean ovaries!

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BoneAppleTeaa · 21/02/2020 17:03

Thank you itsnotthesamewithoutLang are people just directing to the website or actually supplying the flag?

I wish I had the balls to fly one.

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itsnotthesamewithoutLang · 21/02/2020 15:27

This is the flag that Standing for Women wants to see flown on 8th March from all public buildings that have flown the trans flag. If they refuse they need to explain why, and have their reasons made public.

www.standingforwomen.com/product-page/flag-2x1m-with-cord-and-hooks

baubled · 20/02/2020 21:26

Email the forces PR team. You'll probably find there's a LGBTQ association within the Force who have pushed for it.

GrumpyGran8 · 20/02/2020 21:17

I've looked, but there doesn't seem to be a flag just for women. But if there was, I want it to be this old WLM symbol!

Local police headquarters flying the trans flag
GrumpyGran8 · 20/02/2020 21:10

What is a Trans flag?
Here it is. And yes, the colours really were chosen to represent blue for boys and pink for girls. What the white is supposed to be I've no idea.

Local police headquarters flying the trans flag
BritneyPeedOnALadybug · 20/02/2020 21:01

No Dido, if you follow the conversation you will see the OP did not mean it in that way

BoneAppleTeaa · 20/02/2020 20:59

@DidoLamenting not at all, but I can see why my post came across that way.

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DidoLamenting · 20/02/2020 20:51

Looks like my police force supports it but wrapped it up under domestic violence (still very important!) rather than specifically about violence against women and girls

Seriously? You take exception to a campaign against domestic violence because it isn't specifically about women? Even if you (general you) don't give a stuff about adult male victims, children can be male and at risk and vulnerable too.

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