HoL debate on Monday 24th Feb on communal changing and toilet facilities

I've emailed as well....highlighting that any man wishing to breakdown safeguarding of women & children (as many women have young children with them whilst using the toilet) needs to be scrutinised very closely. It is simply unacceptable that a teenage girl be expected to walk into toilets where grown men may be hanging around.

Have emailed - thanks!

Have emailed x

Again here, it is easier for a man to understand the hurt of not complying with the gender expectations placed around you than it is for them to understand the hurt of sexual abuse. Because they are much more likely to have had some first hand experience of the former and not the later

It is promising that he is asking questions and has some understanding that this is an issue even if he doesn't fully understand the details.
Miles ahead of the latest spoutings from Labour.

I think he underestimates the potential for compromise. It is simply not possible for transwomen to access single sex spaces without harming women.

Completely agree.

But I think with someone like this, who is asking for opinions & feedback - there's at least a chance I can be heard.

Long game. That's just my opinion anyway.

And don’t want some men watching however they identify

But in toilets with a buggy and 2 toddlers. Sometimes we need to keep door open. While wrangling toddlers

He's asked a lot of questions on Twitter
twitter.com/lordlucascd/status/1227664630652243968?s=21

I would like to see Stonewall lay aside its kimono and baseball bat

Excellent quote!

Safeguarding children and vulnerable adults should always outrank integration, and the government should state that clearly.
Serious competitive sports should be segregated by sex, not gender, wherever male physical advantages mean that females could not, without segregation, hope to win consistently on a par with males.

^^ that's his text, not mine

I've just told him that Happy

If you read his whole thread though. There are some bits which are good:

Safeguarding children and vulnerable adults should always outrank integration, and the government should state that clearly.
Serious competitive sports should be segregated by sex, not gender, wherever male physical advantages mean that females could not, without segregation, hope to win consistently on a par with males.

Commenting on safe-guarding, I've just sent him a list of 25 incidents.

On the sports - that's a huge huge thumbs up from me (it's how I got here in the first place). He doesn't use the word 'elite' (which annoys me as that's too vague). How about a 14yr old girl playing football - for her that's seriously competitive but not elite.

So, I think he is mis-guided, but he is clearly trying to think things through.

Women know when they see a male in ‘women’s clothing’. It’s millennia of evolution to keep us safe. Many women wear supposed men’s clothes (jeans, shirts, trainers) we can still instantly be recognised as women. I think Lord Lucan gets it (I hope)

Well reading his starting position doesn’t feel me with confidence! Apparently we can’t tell If a woman is really a man when they are fully clothed....

The kimono/baseball bat is class. An interesting read.

That made me laugh too frogs!

Men presumably don’t know how often women open toilet doors on each other - I have had a door opened onto me at least twice (once because the woman opened the door from the outside ) and have opened (unlocked doors) onto other women a couple of times - mortifying but mother compared to it being a man on the other side of that door.

'I would like to see Stonewall lay aside its kimono and baseball bat, '

Baroness Barker. Predictable that she wouldn’t let any debate about provision for women pass her by. It’ll be mixed sex if she has her way.

And does he realise that most people distinguish between sex and gender and that most of our laws are widely understood to be sex based because most of the discrimination is sex based and gender neutral

Although thinking this through, I suspect men receive more gender related violence than women. Ie an effeminate or gay man will be bullied because of his gender appearance. So perhaps that's why men don't always get it?

Baroness Nicholson (who’s GC) has confirmed she will be attending.

Just started a new thread as Lord Lucas has replied to me with a question - all help in answering it on new thread much appreciated!!!

Lucas is GC 👍