Its becoming more mainstream talking point

Sorry, was I not meant to laugh?

She what?! Has she jettisoned what remains of her mind?

Apparently Dawn Butler said on GMB that babies are born without a biological sex

I think the idea that TW are female transitioning to male chimes with the idea that GC feminists are somehow not in favour of gender non-conformity (another accusation I see in the wider world).

It's always been mainstream, it's just that the TV networks are years behind the people on the street.
ITV have slowly caught on that there is debate to be had.

The BBC are still playing social engineer to the public, but that is never going to stop.

Agree with the comments above. The general public are slowly getting to understand he issues but as it's so complicated, the wish to be kind often dominates.
However, Nandy's demands that male born rapists and paedophiles must be housed in prisons (and everywhere else) with women has certainly given people a WTF! moment.

Campaign. Organise. Recruit. Educate. Discipline.

It's those caring sharing gulags with the excellent arts programs again!

The Chinese have put in a bid to build them at half the price in half the time.

Campaign. Organise. Recruit. Educate. Discipline.

It's those caring sharing gulags with the excellent arts programs again!

others who say trans women meaning woman who has transitioned to a man

I rarely see this mentioned here, so most other posters don't seem to be encountering it in daily life, but I've had conversations with several people and it's become apparent that this is what some people understand is meant by transwoman/transwomen.

Hence they agree when they hear 'TWAW'.
Reading comments on FB or media comment sections I see the same misunderstanding.

Back to the OP, it is becoming more mainstream but as a result we should expect more pushback from TRAs.

Dawn's new mantra: CORED

Campaign. Organise. Recruit. Educate. Discipline.

Nothing remotely Staliney there.

So did she say when she'd be taking herself off the internet, then?

Dwn Butler on Sky News now, says all bullies should be taken off social media. Shades of "close down the Internet!"

Dawn has long shown an active aversion to thinking, so if this in any way hastens the end of her career that would be a good thing.

Idiot.

I don't believe the BBC broadcasts fake news. It does, however, influence the debate by failing to report on certain issues. I have no doubt this is deliberate.

"If that were true, the BBC would have reported it". Haven't we all heard that?
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Prodigal is right, I've had similar experience in Easy Africa. The BBC still represents truth all over the world, particularly where there are biased state broadcasters, it's what BBC World Service was built for.

The coverage of the Labour pledge has definitely helped with sunlight, and Harry's case too.

We need to keep going.

DickKerrLadies it was probably RedToothBrush.

RuffleCrow me too. I now wonder what other topics they’re not covering properly or pushing a line on but it’s only when you know a topic in depth that you realise what’s going on.

All this "starting from the position that TWAW"

This seems to be a deliberate - possibly new -double speak strategy obfuscating the fact that TW are men to confuse the public about the reality of what they are trying to implement.

Makes in female spaces.

Any other man stating they want unfettered access to female spaces would be given short shrift by the public - But if these men are trans women who are also women- it’s brave and stunning.

Not to the 14 year old girl who is forced to undress in front of a man

Sky news also had 2 GC people in, I'm sorry I can't remember who, to review the papers at around midnight. Both were very articulate and succinct about the issues presented in the articles they were discussing. The presenter appeared to be on edge and ended their discussion saying it's a very delicate topic and others may disagree strongly with their perspective. Refreshing nonetheless to have it aired and issues questioned.

I only wish it had been at a more mainstream time of day. It does appear there feels to be more of a push back within media outlets recently.

The BBC used to be trusted not just in the UK but all over the world. I once went to a talk where an activist for East Timor said he'd heard something on the BBC and initially thought, that can't be right, but then thought, and I quote, "the BBC is never wrong".

Money can't buy that kind of trust, and once lost it's very hard to regain.

As an aside, I would like to thank whoever the FWR poster was that taught me the term 'reverse ferret'.

What was the fragrant Dawn's response? Deep breath and recite the mantra?

If GMB and the BBC are now allowing GC views it's only because a PIE - style super-scandal is about to be exposed and they don't want to look complicit (again). The way this issue has been buried, misconstrued and misrepresented by msm over the past 3-4 years has shaken my faith in these institutions to the core. How can i trust anything they say when they'll promote the lie that night is day given enough financial incentive?

All TWAW means is 'men are women if they say they are' - and the self-ID proponents know this.

So to translate: "starting from the position that men are women if they say they are..." - it all sounds a bit like bollocks, doesn't it?

But YY most people think that a transwoman is a male transsexual who has had their penis removed. Also bollocks.