Owen Jones's latest...

Critical thinking has never been one of Own’s strong points.

OMFG not sure what else to say

Is there anything this lobby won't piggyback on?

I'm genuinely shocked.

The thing I've read on here about how GC feminists with years of activism around LGB and women's rights are now being aligned with bigots, has anyone thought about how silly that is...

This is a gross move tbh. Combo of. Appropriation of extreme anti semitic ideas. Plus, linking into the quiverful type stuff out of USA. Which is a different topic..

And Owen says yep?!

There are some women very involved in those "hate organisations" Owen hates so much who actually are Jewish, not sure how Owen squares that circle. Tosser.

Anyone read this comment on the same thread

Well recalled Whatisthisfuckery.

61. She goes on to describe the Claimant as a ‘bigot’ who ‘eighty years ago ... would have been making the same comments about Jewish people’. It is not clear what comments she is specifically referring to, but I understand she regards the Claimant as someone who eighty years ago would, by his writings, have contributed to the socio-political conditions in Germany which paved the way for the Holocaust and the murder of millions of Jews. She also says that over different decades he would have made offensive comments about gay people and black and Asian people.

Didn’t the statement of Mrs B in Harry’s case make the argument that Harry is exactly the type of person who 80 years ago would have been spouting anti Semitic rhetoric? And didn’t the judge write in his conclusions that Mrs B’s arguments at times pushed the outer reaches of rationality?

I shall rest my case there.

Stephen Doughty tried this kind of elision in a parliamentary committee on transphobia in media. He drew attention to references to 'Trans' Lobby being like the 'Jewish' Lobby. Times editor replied well we would refer to the Jewish Lobby if there was one.

Does not compute.

tl;dr - it's an attempt to equate the 'literal violence' suffered by transpeople being misgendered with the mass murder of 6 million Jews.

Insensitive isn't the half of it.

Sure the Trans pledges ARE inspired by the anti-Semitism pledges.

The big difference being that Labour has a massive problem with anti-Semitism in its ranks, such that it is being investigated by the EHRC over it - so the pledges are needed.

The suggestion that trans people have faced the same kind of discrimination within Labour as Jews have in recent years is more than tin-eared, it's an attempt to claim victim status that trans people have not (thankfully for them) earned.

And yes, it's another subtle way of minimising the very real anti-Semitism in the Labour Party - by comparing it to another group who have faced zero discrimination in Labour.

I've seen such piggybacking in other areas too - 'Climate Change Denier' has definite (and deliberate) echoes of 'Holocaust Denier'.

Dave Chappelle has made similar points in the past about not being happy about how some special interest groups compare their experience to that of Black people, centuries of slavery etc.

(I do wonder if the recent Trans pledges are inspired by the anti-semitism pledge that Corbyn etc refused to sign up to in the run up to the GE. Come to think of it I think there's an Islamophobia pledge out there too - some reasonable points, others a bit more controversial to say the least - iirc #12 would mean the government officially recognising Palestine).

Oh fuck off LOJ

Just fuck the fuck off

It’s an attempt to equate the suffering of 6m Jews to the ‘suffering of misgendering’.

Playing the victim🙄. Most oppressed group in the history of the world indeedy.

This is new schtick - "it's just like antisemitism". Fuck off is it.

I find the parallels between transphobia and anti-Semitism pretty atrocious as a Jew - it's deeply minimising of the realities of anti-Semitism and the Holocaust to suggest that transphobia is equivalent.

Point out to me when 6 million transpeople were brutally murdered within living memory, and you might have a point.

Until then, stop trying to piggyback off other people's tragedy. It's another example of the deliberate methodology of hijacking legitimate support for other people's rights that led to the adding of the T to the LGB.

The conflation is not accidental - it's cynical and deliberate. And not done by people who give a shit about Jews or LGB rights.

Parody account. It has to be.

I suggest the word 'transphobia' is a dogwhistle for the left. Blow on it, and they lose all reason. It's quite breathtaking.

I swear, Owen Jones is more of a liability than a help to the Left.

StrangeLookingParasite

It's the far right's white genocide conspiracy theory:

www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/27/pittsburgh-synagogue-shooting-antisemitism-conspiracy-theories

The synagogue shooter's "belief is in keeping with white supremacist “white genocide” narratives, which hold in part that Jews are orchestrating the “demographic replacement” of white people by means of immigration."

For more, horrifying and insane detail:

www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/why-the-tree-of-life-shooter-was-fixated-on-the-hebrew-immigrant-aid-society

Hey Owen! Tell that to the orthodox women who can no longer use their local women-only swimming pond, thanks to Edward Lord.

If swans hated women and wanted to agressively invade our spaces and demolish our boundaries, LOJ would be branding the whole world and his dog 'swanphobic' for questioning whether that was a good idea. It's the outcome he's interested in, not the 'worthy cause'.

It's part of the same far right movement that shoots Jews in synagogues because they think we are plotting to fill the western world with Muslims (no, me neither).

Eh? Good grief.

As a Jewish GC feminist, I can only imagine that those who believe that standing up for women's rights = transphobia which in turn = anti-Semitism, must be particularly hard of thinking.

Floribundance

Needless to say, the far right are not big on women's rights...