Harry will be on R4 PM shortly!

Its a shame Evan Davies hasnt done any research about Dr Adrian Harrop.

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3412316-Dr-Adrian-Harrop-thread-the-fourth-GMC-do-care-have-taken-it-to-the-next-level

Dr Harrop's belief that women must not assert that they are adult human females demonstrated in Sky interview with Posie Parker

Harry did really well.

What got me was one of the examples Davis used was of harry calling haddock a descriptive term that suits him down to the ground.
How is a guy calling another guy a bastard "transphobic". Harry is a man and so is haddock.

Evan Davis was once likened to a 'sinister Teddy Ruxpin'. I think I can see why.

For all of you who thought Evan Davis' interview was disgraceful and bias, you should go to the BBC site and file a complaint. I am of the opinion that Evan Davis can be a good interviewer, but he can also be biased in the extreme and is another interviewer who comes armed with sound bites to damage the interviewee and doesn't conduct an interview properly.

The judges remarks were interesting, the ‘Claimant’s reaction to the tweets was on the outer edges of rationality’

I was so disappointed listening to this. Harry was up against the "Cant' you just be nice?" brigade basically. Like every discussion most people have, which leads to shame, and silence.

This is law that is being fought here - Harry didn't sit down in a tea party and scream in someone's face that they're an abomination. He was discussing, in a public forum - whether or not trans women are women, and whether they should legally be allowed to self ID. And whether men identifying as women causes single sex spaces real harm.

So Evan Davies just repeatedly calling him a bigot in a "gotcha" style interview was just a damn shame. As Harry has said - TRA have been trying to get in legislation by the back door. Taking it to court was bravery.

Did Evan say that Harry was not speaking on behalf of women, or did I just make that bit up?

First I've heard about this case and I've just listened to the interview. Harry came across very well and it could have been a good interview if the presenter had not acted as though Harry had lost the case.

Honestly, I take my hat off to those of you who have been at the forefront of this shit for years.

Likewise he implied that Harry was obsessively focused on a niche area totally unrelated to Harry’s life- as if didn’t affect at least 51% of the population. Which is likely to include members of Harry’s family, his friends, colleagues 🙄🙄. Can’t you imagine how this could affect you or anyone you know, Evan?!!

Yeah, I'm sure he didn't mean it to come across that way, but Evan sounded like he couldn't fathom why a man like Harry would be interested in women's rights.

Did his researcher suggest bringing up Harrop? As a practical joke?

Davis's clear bias and garbled understanding of the issue is toe-curling. I'm embarrassed for him.

Harry came across really well, I thought. Evan, not so much.

As an aside, it's a long time since I've heard Shon Faye mentioned, has Shon retired from social media?

Sorry nauticant I didn’t see your post before I wrote mine, exactly as you say.

I guess it depends who’s done the research for the piece as well.

It was a scattergun interview designed to make the interviewer sound like a slightly hysterical loon, by throwing names and accusations about.

I'd recommend listening to the programme:

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000f7yk

when it's available for listen again in an hour or so. Basically Davis decided to ignore the decision of the legal case and run a series of gotchas to show to the audience that Miller is a bigot. It was so bad that even people on twitter were complaining about bias.

Harry who?

I didnt listen. What was the context for bringing harrop into the discussions? And did Evan think harrop was some kind of reputable voice?

I didn't hear the interview but if it was Davies who brought up Dr H - who I would say is pretty much unknown beyond certain social media circles - then I find it hard to believe the clueless act.

Harry very very composed and clear headed!

Herocomplex that’s exactly what I was thinking about the patriarchy program. Well... the patriarchy might not affect Evan. Likewise he implied that Harry was obsessively focused on a niche area totally unrelated to Harry’s life- as if didn’t affect at least 51% of the population. Which is likely to include members of Harry’s family, his friends, colleagues 🙄🙄. Can’t you imagine how this could affect you or anyone you know, Evan?!! Really?

I used to really like him on the Today Program but it appears he has a rather large blind spot.

He might have some idea, but just doesn’t care...

I normally really admire Evan Davies on PM, but he was completely clueless. Hilarious to hear him mention Dr Haddock. He obviously has no idea how much abuse trans activists put out on Twitter against women.

evan massively annoying - he needs to do a bit of research

Ah yes, Evan Davis who on a R4 programme about the patriarchy concluded that although it might have existed it no longer does in any meaningful way.

His insistence that the tweets were anti-trans as well as seeming to confuse sex and gender were evidence of his bias.

Evan Davies’ twisting of the news story astounds me. Well done to Harry for putting across the point so well.

It was an interesting conversation.