Scottow verdict: Guilty

I'm not sure the police would be quite so quick off the mark to prosecute someone who, say, insulted someone in a wheelchair, with a comparable insult.

I don't think the courts took reasonable account of the fact that Kate had blocked Hayden on twitter - so how was it harassment?

Plus there seemed to be incorrect info about tweets said either in court, or in the reporting of the case - if someone retweets something from an account that blocked you, you don't get to see it, it says "tweet unavailable" and tweets from protected accounts cannot be retweeted at all. It's pretty unlikely that you'd come across a tweet from an account that has blocked you - unless you purposely look for it.

Good luck Kate

I wasn't found guilty of abusing TW. I was found guilty of being annoying... Which I'm finding some posters on here are

Exactly. Nice legs, shame about the face, sixteen-sixty, spot the grot - the list is endless. From tart with a heart, to Ho Ho Ho.

Why is it so much worse when it's directed to a trans person, rather than a woman?

Yup. It’s all part of being womanly surely - along with cat calling, told to ‘cheer up luv’ and getting your bum pinched. Same old same old, didn’t realise the police would take me so seriously...

But surely from a legal perspective this is no different from using another protected characteristic as the focus of your insults - e.g. insulting somebody for being disabled or a POC.

But sauce for the goose ought to be sauce for the gander...

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Go and read the whole thread MissChardonnay.

Then you will see you are a little bit misinformed.......

Yet death and rape threats stand. What a curious system we have in this country.

I feel sorry for Maya Forstater and think the demands of the TRA brigade are a bit ridiculous at times. However, unless I'm not getting the full story, this case seems a completely different scenario.

Scottow seems to have created multiple accounts with the sole intention of abusing a TW online, and was specifically targeting her trans status - e.g. 'pig in a wig'.

Can't say I feel particularly sorry for her...

penguin

Its hayden advertising their own account 😂😂😂

Can we not advertise Hayden's twitter here? I'm sure people will look anyway if they have any interest in what Hayden has to say. It just feels wrong to be flagging it up, since Hayden is (in my opinion) no friend to women however Hayden identifies.

jenner

Course you're not.

I do love how you're spinning though. Apart from Kate and harrop you've not had much support have ya? As for harassment I'd have a wee look at your own Twitter time line and the numerous attacks you've been posting in recent days.

Oh how much fun is coming in the next few weeks.

Amalfimamma If you are suggesting I am SH then you are wrong. The thread is about Kate who was convicted last week in court of a criminal offence. On the other hand I do not have a criminal record of any description and I don't think it's in the spirt to just make assumptions and attack me.

Ho jenner and welcome to mumsnet.

Can you please put in another defamation report demanding I delete messages or hand over my details to you? Seeing as we all now know you can't practice law and your extensive criminal record, well part of it z is is now public knowledge?

Ta very much

It will depend on which route the appeal goes. An appeal to the Crown Court is just a rehearing of the case before a judge and two magistrates. If it goes case stated to the High Court then that will result in a precedent.

would that set precedent No precedent - it is the lowest rung of the court system.

The other situation is more about the police and CPS.

They are a parent then?

The parenting show on three counties radio? 😂😂😂

Not quite the media commentator high life 😂😂😂

Out of interest, if the verdict stands in Kate's case (and I don't think it should), would that set precedent for the same verdict if a case was made regarding the fascinating link above or for what Caroline Whatsherface has experienced?

KBO Kate we want to dig

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A complaint has been made, in writing, to the BBC3CR biased reporting on the trial and outcome, an appeal to the high court has also begun.

Unfortunately, I am limited to what I can and cannot discuss, hence why I've been relatively quiet since December 2018, but things are in motion and all will be revealed when safe to do so.

Ironically Ms Hayden was on the Parenting Show on BBC Three Counties Radio last night talking about the Scottow verdict and trolling.

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